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Vol. 2, No. 31 Session 2

Meeting of the Parliament

Wednesday 18 November 2004

Note: (DT) signifies a decision taken at Decision Time.

The meeting opened at 9.30 am.

1. The Fire ( Scotland) Bill – Stage 1: The Deputy Minister for Justice (Hugh Henry) moved S2M-1960—That the Parliament agrees to the general principles of the Fire ( Scotland) Bill.

Mr Kenny MacAskill moved amendment S2M-1960.2 to motion S2M-1960—

Insert at end—

“but, in so doing, recognises that the Fire Service has served Scotland and its communities well and has done so with firefighters, management, employers and local authorities working in partnership and therefore expresses concern about the proposed abolition of the Scottish Central Fire Brigade Advisory Council and its replacement with a non-statutory body, in conjunction with increased ministerial powers allowing for Scottish Executive action without a forum for proper debate and discussion, at a time when there is concern over the retention of control rooms and other aspects of the service.”

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 40, Against 64, Abstentions 12).

Miss Annabel Goldie moved amendment S2M-1960.1 to motion S2M-1960—

Insert at end—

“but, in so doing, seeks assurances from the Scottish Executive that the ministerial powers in part 1 of the Bill will not be used to amalgamate existing fire boards in Scotland.”

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 41, Against 76, Abstentions 0).

The motion was then agreed to ((DT) by division: For 77, Against 14, Abstentions 26).

2. First Minister’s Question Time: Questions were answered by the First Minister (Mr Jack McConnell).

3. Question Time: Questions were answered by the Minister for Environment and Rural Development (Ross Finnie); by the Minister for Health and Community Care (Mr Andy Kerr); and by other Ministers and junior Scottish Ministers.

4. Business Motion: Ms Margaret Curran, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S2M-2028—That the Parliament a grees that, during Stage 3 of the Breastfeeding etc. (Scotland) Bill, debate on each part of the proceedings shall be brought to a conclusion by the time-limits indicated (each time-limit being calculated from when the Stage begins and excluding any periods when other business is under consideration or when the meeting of the Parliament is suspended or otherwise not in progress):

Group 1 – no later that 45 minutes

Group 2 – no later than 1 hour

Motion to pass the Bill – 2 hours

The motion was agreed to.

5. Breastfeeding etc. ( Scotland) Bill - Stage 3: The Bill was considered at Stage 3.

The following amendment was agreed to without division: 6

The following amendments were disagreed to (by division)—

1 (For 7, Against 86, Abstentions 0)
2 (For 14, Against 79, Abstentions 0)
3 (For 13, Against 80, Abstentions 0)
4 (For 13, Against 79, Abstentions 0)
5 (For 12, Against 82, Abstentions 0)

6. Breastfeeding etc. ( Scotland) Bill – Stage 3: Susan Deacon moved S2M-1968—That the Parliament agrees that the Breastfeeding etc. ( Scotland) Bill be passed.

After debate, the motion was agreed to ((DT) by division: For 103, Against 13, Abstentions 0).

7. Business Motion: Ms Margaret Curran, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S2M-2014—That the Parliament agrees—

(a) that the timetable for completion of consideration of the Transport ( Scotland) Bill at Stage 1 be extended to 4 March 2005;

(b) that the Justice 1 Committee reports to the Justice 2 Committee by 26 November 2004 on the Land Registration (Scotland) Amendment Rules 2004 (SSI 2004/476), the Title Conditions (Scotland) Act 2003 (Rural Housing Bodies) Order 2004 (SSI 2004/477), the Abolition of Feudal Tenure etc. (Scotland) Act 2000 (Prescribed Periods) Order 2004 (SSI 2004/478) and the Lands Tribunal for Scotland (Title Conditions Certificates) (Fees) Rules 2004 (SSI 2004/479); and

(c) that the Justice 1 Committee reports to the Justice 2 Committee by 3 December 2004 on the draft Tenements (Scotland) Act 2004 (Consequential Provisions) Order 2004 and the Tenements (Scotland) Act 2004 (Notice of Potential Liability for Costs) Amendment Order 2004 (SSI 2004/490).

The motion was agreed to.

8. Fire ( Scotland) Bill – Financial Resolution: Ms Margaret Curran moved S2M-1623—That the Parliament, for the purposes of any Act of the Scottish Parliament resulting from the Fire ( Scotland) Bill, agrees to any expenditure payable out of the Scottish Consolidated Fund in consequence of the Act.

The motion was agreed to.

9. Decision Time: The Parliament took decisions on items 1, 6 and 8 as noted above.

10. Diabetes in Scotland: The Parliament debated S2M-1837 in the name of Karen Whitefield —That the Parliament notes the rising numbers of people with diabetes in Scotland as evidenced in the recent report from Diabetes UK Scotland, Diabetes in Scotland and the UK 2004, which shows that there are 148,000 people in Scotland diagnosed with diabetes, a rise of 28,000 since 1996; is concerned that at least 65,000 people in Scotland are undiagnosed, as highlighted in the report, and that this number is rising year-on-year; recognises that diabetes is associated with ch ronic ill-health, disability and premature mortality and that long-term complications, including heart disease, strokes, blindness, kidney disease and amputations, make the greatest contribution to the costs of diabetes care, and believes that many of these long-term effects could be avoided with earlier identification and more effective treatment.

The meeting closed at 5.57 pm .

P E Grice
Clerk of the Parliament
18 November 2004


(Note: this Appendix does not form part of the Minutes)

Other Documents

The following document was laid before the Parliament on 18 November 2004 and is not subject to any Parliamentary procedure

The Historic Scotland Annual report and accounts 2003-04 Corporate plan 2004-07 (SE/2004/208)

laid under section 22(5) of the Public Finance and Accountability ( Scotland) Act 2000

Committee Reports

The following Report was published on 18 November 2004

Health Committee, 18th Report 2004 (Session 2): Report on Subordinate Legislation (SP Paper 239)