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Meeting of the Parliament

Wednesday 15 December 2004

Note: (DT) signifies a decision taken at Decision Time.

The meeting opened at 2.30 pm.

1. Time for Reflection: Very Reverend Graham Forbes, Provost of St. Mary’s Episcopal Cathedral, Edinburgh led Time for Reflection.

2. Business Motion: Ms Margaret Curran, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S2M-2167—That the Parliament agrees the following revision to the programme of business for Wednesday 15 December 2004—

after,

2.30 pm Time for Reflection

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

delete,

followed by Ministerial Statement on Concessionary Fares

The motion was agreed to.

3. Fair to All, Personal to Each – The Next Steps for NHS Scotland: The Minister for Health and Community Care (Mr Andy Kerr) moved S2M-2155—That the Parliament notes that continuing action is needed to turn round the poor health of many people in Scotland; supports the emphasis that the Scottish Executive has placed, across portfolios, on health promotion; agrees that the Executive is right in tackling the three big killers of coronary heart disease, cancer, and stroke and recognises the progress made to date in reducing mortality rates from these diseases; believes in putting patients first so that they are at the heart of NHS service developments and priorities, and supports the Executive’s determination to target additional investment and increase capacity so that the next steps are focused on reducing waiting for out-patient appointments and hospital admissions, on speeding diagnostic tests and on extending patient choice.

Shona Robison moved amendment S2M-2155.3 to motion S2M-2155—

Leave out from first “supports” to end and insert—

“recognises the progress made in reducing mortality rates from coronary heart disease, cancer and stroke; believes in putting patients first by expanding capacity in the NHS to tackle unacceptably high waiting times for out-patient appointments and hospital admissions, and is concerned that any expansion of the private sector in Scotland can only be achieved at the expense of the NHS.”

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 39, Against 81, Abstentions 1).

Mr David Davidson moved amendment S2M-2155.1 to motion S2M-2155—

Leave out from “continuing” to end and insert—

“there is an urgent need to reform the NHS in Scotland; calls on the Scottish Executive to place patients’ needs at the centre of the service, to give patients the choice to move anywhere within the NHS, to ensure that NHS capacity is supplemented where necessary by better collaboration and partnership with the independent and voluntary health and care sectors and to move to a system where money follows the patients, and further calls on the Executive to free health professionals and local managers to respond to patient needs on a local basis and to transfer resources away from bureaucracy and into front-line care.”

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 17, Against 103, Abstentions 2).

Carolyn Leckie moved amendment S2M-2155.4 to motion S2M-2155—

Leave out from “continuing” to end and insert—

“radical continuing action is needed to turn around the poor health of many people in Scotland, most of it poverty-related; further notes that the Scottish Executive needs to do much more if mortality and morbidity are to be drastically reduced, life expectancy increased and health inequalities removed; recognises that the most effective health promotion measure would be the eradication of poverty; recognises that, while Scotland’s people continue to suffer unacceptable levels of ill-health, the NHS needs to have the capacity to treat patients quickly, effectively and as close to their homes as possible; believes that the NHS in Scotland has suffered unprecedented and unsustainable reductions of capacity, particularly through bed cuts, hospital closures, PFI and budget deficits in the last 10 years and that there needs to be an immediate reversal of that trend by securing the NHS as a publicly-owned, publicly-delivered, universal, comprehensive service free at the point of need with the capacity to meet the needs of the population, and considers private health care to be a parasitic drain on NHS assets, resources and staff that merely converts public money into private profit whilst undermining the founding principles of the NHS and threatens its very existence as envisioned by Aneurin Bevan.”

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 17, Against 82, Abstentions 23).

Dr Jean Turner moved amendment S2M-2155.2 to motion S2M-2155—

Leave out from first “supports” to end and insert—

“welcomes the additional investment on health promotion, including its targeting of heart disease, cancer and stroke; however, urges the Scottish Executive as part of its next steps strategy and to fulfil its aim of returning all patients to the heart of the NHS, to include as part of the strategy a comprehensive review of services dedicated to palliative care and chronic conditions and, further, develop a national programme of diagnostic care, all of which continue to be under-resourced and under-funded, and believes that such a review will save the NHS money by identifying, treating and controlling such conditions in a more structured, preventative and cost-effective manner which will alleviate the consequent pressure on hospital beds and in-patient services.”

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 40, Against 83, Abstentions 0).

The motion was then agreed to ((DT) by division: For 67, Against 55, Abstentions 1).

4. Business Motion: Ms Margaret Curran, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau moved, S2M-2169—That the Parliament agrees the following programme of business—

Wednesday 22 December 2004

2.30 pm Time for Reflection

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Ministerial Statement on Concessionary Fares

followed by Stage 3 of the Emergency Workers ( Scotland) Bill

followed by Motion on the Code of Practice for Ministerial Appointments to Public Bodies

followed by Business Motion

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members’ Business

Thursday 23 December 2004

9.30 am Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Finance Committee Debate: Stage 2 of the 2005-06 Budget Process

12 noon First Minister’s Question Time

2.00 pm Question Time—

Education and Young People, Tourism, Culture and Sport;

Finance and Public Services and Communities;

General Questions

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

3.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members’ Business

Wednesday 12 January 2005

2.30 pm Time for Reflection

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Executive Business

followed by Business Motion

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members’ Business

Thursday 13 January 2005

9.30 am Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Executive Business

12 noon First Minister’s Question Time

2.00 pm Question Time—

Environment and Rural Development;

Health and Community Care

General Questions

3.00 pm Executive Business

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members’ Business

The motion was agreed to.

5. Decision Time: Ms Margaret Curran, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau moved S2M-2159—That the Parliament agrees under Rule 11.2.4 of Standing Orders that Decision Time on Thursday 23 December 2004 be taken at 3.00 pm.

The motion was agreed to (DT).

6. Designation of Lead Committee: Ms Margaret Curran, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau moved S 2M-2160—That the Parliament agrees that the Justice 1 Committee be designated as lead committee in consideration of the Part 1 Land Reform ( Scotland) Act 2003: Draft Guidance for Local Authorities and National Park Authorities (SE/2004/276).

The motion was agreed to (DT).

7. Designation of Lead Committee: Ms Margaret Curran, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau moved S2M-2161—That the Parliament agrees that the Justice 2 Committee be designated as lead committee in consideration of the Fire Services (Appointments and Promotion) ( Scotland) Regulations 2004 (SSI 2004/527).

The motion was agreed to (DT).

8. Designation of Lead Committee: Ms Margaret Curran, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau moved S2M-2162—That the Parliament agrees that the Justice 1 Committee be designated as lead committee in consideration of the Act of Sederunt (Fees of Sheriff Officers) 2004 (SSI 2004/513).

The motion was agreed to (DT).

9. Decision Time: The Parliament took decisions on items 3, 5, 6, 7, and 8 as noted above.

10. Rural Abattoirs: The Parliament debated S2M-1721 in the name of Eleanor Scott—That the Parliament notes that the number of red meat abattoirs in Scotland has fallen from 79 to only 44 in the past 20 years, whereas Austria has sustained over 3,000 slaughter facilities in this period; deplores this reduction, given the detrimental impact on animal welfare that results from increased transportation times; recognises the benefits to rural livelihoods, animal welfare and local food production that more rural abattoirs would bring, and considers that the Scottish Executive should invest in, and support the establishment of, new, modern slaughterhouses throughout rural Scotland.

11. Motion without Notice: Mark Ballard moved without notice that, under Rule 8.14.3, the debate be extended until 6.14 pm.

The motion was agreed to.

The meeting closed at 6.14 pm.

P E Grice
Clerk of the Parliament

15 December 2004


Appendix

(Note: this Appendix does not form part of the Minutes)

Subordinate Legislation

Affirmative Instruments

The following instrument was laid in draft before the Parliament on 10 December 2004 for approval by resolution

The Council Tax (Discount for Unoccupied Dwellings) ( Scotland) Regulations 2005

laid under section 33(6) of the Local Government in Scotland Act 2003

Other Documents

The following document was laid before the Parliament on 10 December 2004 and is not subject to any Parliamentary procedure

HM Inspectorate of Education in Scotland Annual Accounts 2003-2004 (SE/2004/258)

laid under section 22(5) of the Public Finance and Accountability ( Scotland) Act 2000

The following documents were laid before the Parliament on 14 December 2004 and are not subject to any Parliamentary procedure

General Register Office for Scotland Accounts for the year ended 31 March 2004 (SE/2004/270)—

National Archives of Scotland Accounts for the year ended 31 March 2004 (SE/2004/271)—

Scottish Qualifications Authority Annual Financial Accounts for the year ended 31 March 2004 (SE/2004/279)—

laid under section 22(5) of the Public Finance and Accountability ( Scotland) Act 2000

Scottish Qualifications Authority Annual Report 2003-04 (SE/2004/280)

The following documents were laid before the Parliament on 15 December 2004 and are not subject to any Parliamentary procedure

Accountant in Bankruptcy Annual Report and Accounts 2003-2004 (SE/2004/249)—

Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Annual Accounts 2003-04 (SE/2004/285)—

Scottish Parliamentary Contributory Pension Fund Annual Accounts 2003-2004 (SE/2004/286)—

Scottish Executive Finance and Central Services Department: Non-Domestic Rating Account 2003-04 (SE/2004/288)—

laid under section 22(5) of the Public Finance and Accountability ( Scotland) Act 2000

Government Expenditure and Revenue in Scotland 2002-2003 (SE/2004/273)

Committee Reports

The following Reports were published on 10 December 2004—

Audit Committee, 10th Report 2004 (Session 2): Report on Subordinate Legislation (SP Paper 253)

Subordinate Legislation Committee, 43 rd Report 2004 (Session 2): Report on Subordinate Legislation (SP Paper 254)

The following Reports were published on 13 December 2004—

Subordinate Legislation Committee, 44th Report 2004 (Session 2): Report on Edinburgh Tram (Line One) Bill and Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill (SP Paper 255)

Communities Committee, 14th Report 2004 (Session 2): Report on Subordinate Legislation (SP Paper 256)

The following Report was published on 15 December 2004

Finance Committee , 8th Report 2004: Report on Stage 2 of the 2005-06 Budget Process (SP Paper 257)