Meeting of the Parliament
Thursday 2 December 2004
Note: (DT) signifies a decision taken at Decision Time.
The meeting opened at 9.30 am.
1. Towards a Sustainable Aquaculture Industry: The Deputy Minister for Environment and Rural Development (Lewis Macdonald) moved S2M-2096—That the Parliament welcomes the Scottish Executive commitment, as set out in A Partnership for a Better Scotland, to support a sustainable aquaculture industry, through the implementation of the Strategic Framework for Scottish Aquaculture and other measures, including trade defence and a review of the regulatory procedures and associated costs and of the scope for improved access to veterinary medicines, all of which are designed to protect and improve employment and investment opportunities in many parts of the Highlands and Islands, including many of our most remote rural and island communities.
Rob Gibson moved amendment S2M-2096.2 to motion S2M-2096—
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“and agrees to set out a timetable for the adoption and application of a framework for spatial planning of marine and coastal resources, including fish farming, taking advantage where appropriate of the planned strategic environmental assessment of Scotland’s coastline announced by the Deputy First Minister and Minister for Enterprise and Lifelong Learning on 24 November 2004, and calls for a regulatory one-stop shop.”
After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 49, Against 63, Abstentions 0).
Mr Ted Brocklebank moved amendment S2M-2096.3 to motion S2M-2096—
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“but questions the timetable and scope of the proposed Aquaculture bill; further notes that the Executive has still failed to meet 14 targets it set out in the Strategic Framework for Scottish Aquaculture, and laments that it has taken it six years to set up a review into the current regulatory framework with a view to lightening the burden of regulation that threatens to choke the industry.”
After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 34, Against 77, Abstentions 1).
Robin Harper m oved amendment S2M-2096.1 to motion S2M-2096—
Leave out from “commitment” to end and insert—
“stated commitment to a sustainable aquaculture industry; welcomes and endorses the aim of the Strategic Framework for Scottish Aquaculture to establish “a sustainable, diverse, competitive and economically viable aquaculture industry”; further welcomes the Executive’s commitment to a review of regulatory procedures and associated costs; notes that the wording of the title of the motion, through the use of the word “towards”, acknowledges that the industry is currently not sustainable, and calls on the Executive, following its review, to develop a regulatory framework and overarching statutory code of practice that will include statutory duties and greater transparency for area management groups, codification of sea cage containment standards, statutory sea lice monitoring and reporting, provisions in respect of wild salmon and sea trout lochs, no relaxation of present constraints on the use of veterinary medicines, properly-financed transfer of powers from the Crown Estate to local authorities, proper support for all aquaculture activities and implementation of locational guidelines and optimum stocking levels in addition to working within the carrying capacity of the environment both locally and nationally and throughout the supply chain.”
After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 15, Against 97, Abstentions 0).
The motion was then agreed to (DT).
2. First Minister’s Question Time: Questions were answered by the First Minister (Mr Jack McConnell).
3. Question Time: Questions were answered by the Minister for Education and Young People (Peter Peacock); by the Minister for Finance and Public Service Reform (Mr Tom McCabe) and the Minister for Communities (Malcolm Chisholm); and by other Ministers and junior Scottish Ministers.
4. Efficient Government: The Minister for Finance and Public Service Reform (Mr Tom McCabe) moved S2M-2093—That the Parliament welcomes the publication of Building a Better Scotland: Efficient Government – Securing Efficiency, Effectiveness and Productivity; recognises the need to increase the efficiency, effectiveness and productivity of the Scottish public sector, and endorses the Scottish Executive’s ambition to make the Scottish public sector the most productive and innovative in the United Kingdom.
Alasdair Morgan moved amendment S2M-2093.1 to motion S2M-2093—
Leave out “welcomes” and insert “notes”.
After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 26, Against 85, Abstentions 1).
Mr Brian Monteith moved amendment S2M-2093.2 to motion S2M-2093—
Leave out from “and endorses” to end and insert—
“believes that such efficiency savings can only be made if there is a substantial reduction in the scope and size of government in Scotland, and therefore calls on the Scottish Executive to move away from its target culture of intervention and interference as well as to end the monopoly provision of public services in order to ensure better value for money.”
After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 16, Against 95, Abstentions 1).
Tommy Sheridan moved amendment S2M-2093.3 to motion S2M-2093—
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“but believes that such efficiency, effectiveness and productivity will only be delivered with the co-operation and involvement of the workers who deliver these public services and not by attacking them or slashing the number of workers employed in these services; further believes that public service workers embody all that is good about our small country and that they should be properly paid and recognised for the essential duties they perform; rejects any suggestion that reducing workforces improves effectiveness, efficiency or productivity but does believe that such action reduces the quality and scope of public services available to citizens across Scotland, and further believes that the privatisation of public services to date has proved clearly that public provision is superior in relation to both efficiency and quality and that further privatisation should therefore be opposed.”
After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 15, Against 79, Abstentions 18).
The motion was then agreed to ((DT) by division: For 64, Against 22, Abstentions 26).
5. Business Motion: Ms Margaret Curran, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S2M-2091—That the Parliament agrees—
(a) that the timetable for completion of consideration of the Prostitution Tolerance Zones ( Scotland) Bill at Stage 1 be extended to 30 April 2005;
(b) that consideration of the Edinburgh Tram (Line One) Bill and the Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill at Preliminary Stage be completed by 25 February 2005; and
(c) that the Justice 1 Committee reports to the Justice 2 Committee by 3 December 2004 on the Civil Legal Aid (Scotland) Amendment (No.2) Regulations 2004 (SSI 2004/491); the Advice and Assistance (Scotland) Amendment (No.3) Regulations 2004 (SSI 2004/492); and the Legal Aid (Scotland) Act 1986 Amendment Regulations 2004 (SSI 2004/493).
The motion was agreed to.
6. Decision Time: The Parliament took decisions on items 1 and 4 as noted above.
7. Domestic Abuse Services for All Victims: The Parliament debated S2M-2055 in the name of Mike Rumbles—That the Parliament recognises the very serious and totally unacceptable problem of domestic violence in Scottish society; notes in particular that all victims, whether they be women, men or children, need to be supported, and therefore considers that the Scottish Executive should provide practical help and assistance to all such victims.
The meeting closed at 5.58 pm.
P E Grice
Clerk of the Parliament
2 December 2004
(Note: this Appendix does not form part of the Minutes)
The following instruments were laid before the Parliament on 1 December 2004 and are subject to annulment—
The Common Agricultural Policy Schemes (Cross-Compliance) (Scotland) Regulations 2004 (SSI 2004/518)
laid under paragraph 2(2) of schedule 2 to the European Communities Act 1972
The Road User Charging (Exemption from Charges) (Scotland) Regulations 2004 (SSI 2004/519)
laid under section 81(3) of the Transport (Scotland) Act 2001
The following instruments were laid before the Parliament on 2 December 2004 and are subject to annulment—
The Environmental Information (Scotland) Regulations 2004 (SSI 2004/520)
laid under paragraph 2(2) of Schedule 2 to the European Communities Act 1972
The Race Relations Act 1976 (Statutory Duties) (Scotland) Amendment Order 2004 (SSI 2004/521)
laid under section 74 of the Race Relations Act 1976
The Protection of Children ( Scotland) Act 2003 Determination Regulations 2004 (SSI 2004/523)
laid under section 21 of the Protection of Children (Scotland) Act 2003
The Plastic Materials and Articles in Contact with Food Amendment (Scotland) Regulations 2004 (SSI 2004/524)—
The Contaminants in Food (Scotland) Regulations 2004 (SSI 2004/525)—
laid under section 48(3) of the Food Safety Act 1990
The Police Act 1997 (Criminal Records) (Protection of Children) (Scotland) Regulations 2004 (SSI 2004/526)
laid under section 125 of the Police Act 1997
The Fire Services (Appointments and Promotion) (Scotland) Regulations 2004 (SSI 2004/527)
laid under section 35 of the Fire Services Act 1947
The following draft Guidance was laid before the Parliament on 2 December 2004 and will be issued at the conclusion of 40 days unless the Parliament resolves otherwise
Part 1 Land Reform ( Scotland) Act 2003: Draft Guidance for Local Authorities and National Park Authorities (SE/2004/276)
laid under section 27(4)(b) of the Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003
The following document was laid before the Parliament on 1 December 2004 and is not subject to any Parliamentary procedure
Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service – Accounts for the year ended 31 March 2004 (SE/2004/253)
laid under section 22(5) of the Public Finance and Accountability (Scotland) Act 2000
The following Reports were published on the 2 December 2004—
Enterprise and Culture Committee, 11th Report 2004: Report on Subordinate Legislation (SP Paper 248)
Justice 2 Committee, 10th Report 2004 (Session 2): Report on Subordinate Legislation (SP Paper 249)
Health Committee, 20th Report 2004 (Session 2): Report on Subordinate Legislation (SP Paper 250)
Subordinate Legislation Committee, 42nd Report 2004 (Session 2): Report on Subordinate Legislation (SP Paper 251)