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Vol. 2, No. 27 Session 2

Meeting of the Parliament

Thursday 4 November 2004

Note: (DT) signifies a decision taken at Decision Time.

The meeting opened at 9.30 am.

1. A Better Deal for Pensioners: Nicola Sturgeon moved S2M-1940—That the Parliament agrees that Scotland must face up to the twin challenges of tackling current pensioner poverty and ensuring decent living standards for future generations of pensioners; believes that removing the pensions means test would help to achieve both of these objectives, and calls upon the Scottish Executive to bring pressure to bear on Her Majesty’s Government to begin the process of replacing means-testing with a citizen’s pension.

Karen Whitefield moved amendment S2M-1940.5 to motion S2M-1940—

Leave out from "agrees" to end and insert –

"supports the vision of a Scotland in which every older person matters and every person beyond working age has a decent quality of life; considers that older people’s lives have been improved through devolution across a wide range of areas such as health, transport, housing, social justice, volunteering, lifelong learning and tackling anti-social behaviour; recognises the range of measures specifically designed to improve the quality of life of all older people in Scotland, including free personal care for the elderly, free off-peak local bus travel, the central heating programme and funding for the Warm Deal; endorses the partnership between the Scottish Executive and Her Majesty’s Government to tackle pensioner poverty, and welcomes the Scottish Executive’s continuing commitment to improving the lives of all of Scotland’s senior citizens."

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 47, Against 66, Abstentions 1).

Mary Scanlon moved amendment S2M-1940.1 to motion S2M-1940—

Leave out from "believes" to end and insert—

"condemns the Chancellor’s promotion of the means test which acts as a major disincentive to save; believes that linking the basic state pension to earnings would lift a million pensioners out of means-testing over a four year period; calls for greater measures to encourage personal savings, and acknowledges that only a Conservative administration at Westminster can implement these changes for the benefit of all Scotland’s pensioners."

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 16, Against 97, Abstentions 1).

Robert Brown moved amendment S2M-1940.4 to motion S2M-1940—

Leave out from "agrees" to end and insert—

"welcomes the progress made by the Scottish Executive in ensuring a better deal for pensioners through the introduction of free personal care, a national free off-peak bus scheme and a free central heating and insulation scheme; recognises that pensions policy is reserved to the UK Government; believes that the UK Government’s policy on pensions has failed as nearly 2 million pensioners are missing out on the pension credits that they are entitled to and deserve due to demeaning and unworkable means-testing, and further believes that the state pension must be reformed to ensure that everyone has a decent income in retirement by implementing the Liberal Democrat proposal for a Citizen’s Pension, initially for those over 75, with entitlement based on residency and not National Insurance contributions, restoring the link between earnings and pensions, making older pensioners better off by £25 per week for single pensioners and lifting one million UK pensioners out of means-testing."

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 14, Against 99, Abstentions 1).

John Swinburne moved amendment S2M-1940.2 to motion S2M-1940—

Insert at end—

"and restore the link, broken in 1982, between pensions and average national earnings."

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 52, Against 60, Abstentions 1).

The motion was then disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 37, Against 76, Abstentions 1).

2. First Minister’s Question Time: Questions were answered by the First Minister (Mr Jack McConnell).

3. Question Time: Questions were answered by the Minister for Enterprise and Lifelong Learning (Mr Jim Wallace) and the Minister for Transport (Nicol Stephen); by the Minister for Justice (Cathy Jamieson), the Solicitor General for Scotland (Mrs Elish Angiolini) and the Lord Advocate (Colin Boyd); and by other Ministers and junior Scottish Ministers.

4. Ministerial Statement: The Minister for Justice (Cathy Jamieson) made a statement and answered questions on creating safer communities – improving youth justice.

5. Domestic Abuse Services: The Minister for Communities (Malcolm Chisholm) moved S2M-1943—That the Parliament recognises the very serious and totally unacceptable problem of domestic abuse in Scottish society; notes in particular the traumatic effect of domestic abuse on children and young people as well as on women; acknowledges the range of initiatives in this area that have been funded by the Scottish Executive in the last few years, and welcomes the Scottish Executive’s partnership working and its investment and work to support those experiencing domestic abuse.

Ms Sandra White moved amendment S2M-1943.1 to motion S2M-1943—

Leave out from "and welcomes" to end and insert—

"expresses its concern, however, at the level of secure funding to agencies working in this area and the lack of suitably-located alternative accommodation for the victims of domestic abuse, particularly those with children; further expresses concern that services for elderly people who are victims of domestic abuse are even more limited, and commends the role of Tayside Domestic Abuse Service, the only service of its kind in Scotland where police and a voluntary organisation work together to support the victims of abuse, as a model of effective partnership working."

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 51, Against 62, Abstentions 0).

Margaret Mitchell moved amendment S2M-1943.2 to motion S2M-1943—

Leave out from "acknowledges" to end and insert—

"notes with grave concern the escalating pattern of repeat victimisation highlighting the fact that more and more victims are trapped in abusive situations; acknowledges and welcomes the range of initiatives in this area that have been funded by the Scottish Executive in the last few years, and calls on the Executive to continue to explore different means to raise awareness of the issue generally and to ensure that individuals who are trapped in abusive situations are aware of these support services to help them escape from their abusive circumstances."

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 47, Against 67, Abstentions 0).

Shiona Baird moved amendment S2M-1943.3 to motion S2M-1943—

Leave out from "recognises" to end and insert—

"notes with concern that, despite Scottish Executive initiatives, domestic abuse continues to be widespread; recognises the recent public opinion poll from Amnesty International showing the level of complacency in society about domestic abuse; believes that tackling domestic abuse will require concerted effort by the Executive including a continued focus on public education and awareness-raising, in particular focusing on education and involving non-perpetrating men, along with extending support for those experiencing domestic abuse; welcomes the Executive’s recent announcement of £6 million funding for children and young people experiencing domestic abuse but calls on the Executive to detail as soon as possible how this funding will be allocated; notes with concern that there is no national funding strategy for domestic abuse services, that funding for Women’s Aid groups throughout Scotland is often on a yearly basis and that the quality of service varies widely according to local authority area and calls on the Executive to put in place a national funding strategy, and recognises that, to tackle domestic abuse effectively, Executive policy-making needs to take into account the interlinkages between all types of gender-based violence and continue to broaden its focus to encompass all forms of violence against women including those in vulnerable minorities."

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 37, Against 77, Abstentions 0).

The motion was then agreed to (DT).

6. Business Motion: Ms Margaret Curran, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S2M-1950—That the Parliament agrees the following programme of business—

Wednesday 10 November 2004

2.30 pm Time for Reflection

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Ministerial Statement on Smoking

followed by Executive Debate on Smoking

followed by Business Motion

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members’ Business

Thursday 11 November 2004

9.30 am Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Executive Debate on Fostering

12 noon First Minister’s Question Time

2.00 pm Question Time—

Education and Young People, Tourism, Culture and Sport;

Finance and Public Services and Communities;

General Questions

3.00 pm Procedures Committee Debate on its 6th Report 2004: A New Procedure for Members’ Bills and on its 7th Report 2004: Timescales and Stages of Bills

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members’ Business

Wednesday 17 November 2004

2.30 pm Time for Reflection

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Stage 1 Debate on the Water Services etc. (Scotland) Bill

followed by Financial Resolution in respect of the Water Services etc. (Scotland) Bill

followed by Business Motion

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members’ Business

Thursday 18 November 2004

9.30 am Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Stage 1 Debate on the Fire (Scotland) Bill

followed by Financial Resolution in respect of the Fire (Scotland) Bill

12 noon First Minister’s Question Time

2.00 pm Question Time—

Environment and Rural Development;

Health and Community Care;

General Questions

3.00 pm Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Stage 3 of the Breastfeeding etc. (Scotland) Bill

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members’ Business

The motion was agreed to.

7. Designation of Lead Committee: Ms Margaret Curran, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S2M-1946—That the Parliament agrees that the Justice 2 Committee be designated as lead committee in consideration of the draft Abolition of Feudal Tenure etc. (Scotland) Act 2000 (Consequential Provisions) Order 2004.

The motion was agreed to (DT).

8. Decision Time: The Parliament took decisions on items 1, 5 and 7 as noted above.

9. Launch of the Gretna-Lockerbie-Annan Economic Regeneration Prospectus: The Parliament debated S2M-1877 in the name of David Mundell—That the Parliament welcomes the launch earlier this year of the prospectus published by the Corridor Regeneration Strategy Steering Group outlining key objectives and a number of themes to stimulate economic growth in Gretna, Lockerbie and Annan to address the impact on the area of the cessation of power production at Chapelcross; notes that the regeneration strategy, with its four principal themes of wealth, diversity, inspiration and inclusion, recognises not only the challenges that the Gretna-Lockerbie-Annan corridor now faces, but also the opportunities to be seized; congratulates the steering group on its genuine joined-up and cross-party working to date, and believes that the Scottish Executive should provide all the support that it can to the steering group’s work and to the regeneration of the Gretna-Lockerbie-Annan corridor.

The meeting closed at 5.58 pm.

P E Grice

Clerk of the Parliament

4 November 2004

Appendix

(Note: this Appendix does not form part of the Minutes)

Affirmative Instruments

The following instruments were laid in draft before the Parliament on 4 November 2004 for approval by resolution—

The draft Budget (Scotland) Act 2004 Amendment (No. 2) Order 2004

laid under section 7(2) of the Budget (Scotland) Act 2004

The draft Agricultural Holdings (Right to buy Modifications) (Scotland) Regulations 2004

laid under section 91(4)(b) of the Agricultural Holdings (Scotland) Act 2003

Negative Instruments

The following instruments were laid before the Parliament on 4 November 2004 and are subject to annulment—

The Nature Conservation (Designation of Relevant Regulatory Authorities) (Scotland) Order 2004 (SSI 2004/474)

laid under section 53(4) of the Nature Conservation (Scotland) Act 2004

The Conservation (Natural Habitats, &c.) Amendment (Scotland) Regulations 2004 (SSI 2004/475)

laid under paragraph 2(2) of Schedule 2 to the European Communities Act 1972

The Land Registration (Scotland) Amendment Rules 2004 (SSI 2004/476)

laid under section 27(2) of the Land Registration (Scotland) Act 1979

The Title Conditions (Scotland) Act 2003 (Rural Housing Bodies) Order 2004 (SSI 2004/477)—

The Lands Tribunal for Scotland (Title Conditions Certificates) (Fees) Rules 2004 (SSI 2004/479)—

laid under section 127(1) of the Title Conditions (Scotland) Act 2003

The Abolition of Feudal Tenure etc. (Scotland) Act 2000 (Prescribed Periods) Order 2004 (SSI 2004/478)

laid under section 74(1) of the Abolition of Feudal Tenure etc. (Scotland) Act 2000

Other Documents

The following documents were laid before the Parliament on 4 November 2004 and are not subject to any Parliamentary procedure—

Scotland’s Budget Documents: The 2004-05 Autumn Budget Revision to the Budget (Scotland) (No 5) Act for the year ending 31 March 2005 (SE/2004/211)

The Judicial Appointments Board for Scotland – Annual Report 2003-04 (SE/2004/238)

VisitBritain Annual Report 2003-04 (SE/2004/250)