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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

Meeting of the Parliament

Vol 2, No 3 Session 2

Wednesday 19 May 2004

 
 

Note: (DT) signifies a decision taken at Decision Time.

The meeting opened at 9.30 am.

1. Health Issues: David McLetchie moved S2M-1326—That the Parliament notes that, despite a substantial increase in funding for the NHS in Scotland, services for patients have not improved over the last five years with fewer in-patient, day case and out-patient treatments occurring and more patients waiting longer for treatment; notes that, despite the best efforts of NHS staff, the current monolithic, centrally-run system of providing healthcare is not delivering the results our people are entitled to expect; recognises that fundamental reform is needed of the NHS in Scotland to achieve the standards of many other health services in European countries and to provide value for money for our taxpayers, and calls on the Scottish Executive to give patients genuine choice over the treatment they receive, establish foundation hospitals within NHSScotland and promote the development of the independent sector.

The Minister for Health and Community Care (Malcolm Chisholm) moved amendment S2M-1326.4 to motion S2M-1326—

Leave out from first "notes" to end and insert—

"commends staff across the NHS for the quality improvements achieved over the last five years, the new forms of activity such as nurse-led clinics and the progress being made towards a six-month maximum wait for in-patient treatment by the end of 2005; notes that progress has been made at the same time as the working hours of medical and other staff have been brought into line with accepted norms; commends recent initiatives to tackle long out-patient waiting times, and supports further reform of NHSScotland through the development of community health partnerships and managed clinical networks, an increasing emphasis on involving patients and learning from their experiences and a sustained drive on health improvement and the prevention of ill-health in partnership with other agencies."

Shona Robison moved amendment S2M-1326.2 to motion S2M-1326—

Leave out from "the current" to end and insert—

"the productivity and efficiency of NHSScotland is declining, and therefore calls on Audit Scotland to undertake a full root-and-branch inquiry into why the performance of NHSScotland has not improved given the substantial increase in funding."

Carolyn Leckie moved amendment S2M-1326.3 to motion S2M-1326—

Leave out from ", despite a" to end and insert—

"Scotland's health and quality of health services are not improving in relation to the wealth available in the fourth biggest economy in the world; further notes that the NHS has insufficient core capacity and insufficient core staffing of establishments that have increased agency, overtime and locum costs; is concerned that NHS boards have substantial deficits and plan unacceptable reductions in service provision and jobs; believes that resources that should be directly spent on patient care are diverted to ever-increasing profits for private consortia, private health providers of all kinds and pharmaceutical companies; notes that the Scottish Executive and NHS boards have repeatedly failed to strategically plan effectively; believes that all forms of privatisation in the NHS such as PFI/PPP and contracting from private providers should be stopped; further believes that the pharmaceutical companies should be brought into public ownership or, in the meantime, at the very least, the Executive should urgently introduce a drug-pricing regime that will control and deflate drug company profits, and believes that capacity and staffing establishments need to be systematically enlarged."

After debate, amendment S2M-1326.4 was agreed to ((DT) by division: For 71, Against 46, Abstentions 0). As a result amendments S2M- 1326.2 and S2M-1326.3 were pre-empted.

The motion as amended was then agreed to ((DT) by division: For 69, Against 48, Abstentions 0).

Accordingly the Parliament resolved—That the Parliament commends staff across the NHS for the quality improvements achieved over the last five years, the new forms of activity such as nurse-led clinics and the progress being made towards a six-month maximum wait for in-patient treatment by the end of 2005; notes that progress has been made at the same time as the working hours of medical and other staff have been brought into line with accepted norms; commends recent initiatives to tackle long out-patient waiting times, and supports further reform of NHSScotland through the development of community health partnerships and managed clinical networks, an increasing emphasis on involving patients and learning from their experiences and a sustained drive on health improvement and the prevention of ill-health in partnership with other agencies.

2. Sustainable Management of Scotland's Marine Environment: The Deputy Minister for Environment and Rural Development (Allan Wilson) moved S2M-1327—That the Parliament recognises the considerable ecological, economic and social importance of Scotland's marine environment; notes that the seas and oceans are the theme of this year's United Nations World Environment Day on 5 June; acknowledges the range of initiatives already taken by the Scottish Executive to protect and enhance all of Scotland's coastline and marine waters, including the Partnership Agreement commitment to consult on the options of establishing a national coastline park and marine national parks; endorses the Executive's continued input to the United Kingdom marine stewardship report process, to the development of a European marine strategy and to OSPAR; welcomes the strong lead being taken by the Executive to set out a clearer vision and more coherent strategic framework for Scotland's marine environment in its recent consultation paper, and supports the Executive's objectives of improving the co-ordination of activity to support, and developing a mechanism for, the future good governance and sustainable management of Scotland's marine environment.

Roseanna Cunningham moved amendment S2M-1327.1 to motion S2M-1327—

Leave out from "acknowledges" to end and insert—

"supports continued involvement by the Scottish Executive in the development of a European marine strategy and in OSPAR; notes that the regulation and management of Scotland's coast and seas is fragmented with no coherent regulatory or planning framework and that, despite Scotland's unique variety of marine wildlife, there is no legal basis for designating and managing areas for nationally important marine habitats and species; believes that there is a need for legislation to deliver integrated management of all aspects of Scotland's marine environment; welcomes the consultation on the establishment of a national coastline park and marine national park, and, in recognising the importance of improving the co-ordination of activity to support, and develop a mechanism for, the future good governance and sustainable management of Scotland's marine environment, calls for control of all matters impacting on the marine environment that are currently reserved, including the Crown Estate Commission's ownership of the seabed, to be devolved to the Scottish Parliament."

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 38, Against 79, Abstentions 0).

Alex Johnstone moved amendment S2M-1327.2 to motion S2M-1327—

Leave out from "; endorses" to end and insert—

", but believes that the consolidation of marine legislation is only desirable if it can be achieved while protecting economic and social stakeholders, particularly in the fishing, aquaculture, energy and tourism sectors."

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 18, Against 75, Abstentions 24).

Robin Harper moved amendment S2M-1327.3 to motion S2M-1327—

Leave out from "in its recent" to end and insert—

"starting with its recent consultation paper; notes the need for encouragement and support to community initiatives seeking sustainable local management of marine resources; supports the Executive's objectives of improving the co-ordination of activity to support, and develop a strategy for, the future good governance and sustainable management of Scotland's marine environment, and calls on the Executive to, as a first step, establish a marine national park by the end of 2006."

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 38, Against 79, Abstentions 0).

The motion was then agreed to ((DT) by division: For 81, Against 2, Abstentions 34).

3. Business Motion: Patricia Ferguson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S2M-1332—That the Parliament agrees the following programme of business—

Wednesday 2 June 2004

2.30 pm Time for Reflection

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Scottish National Party Business

followed by Business Motion

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

Thursday 3 June 2004

9.30 am Executive Debate on the Economy of the Highlands and Islands

12 noon First Minister's Question Time

2.00 pm Question Time—

Environment and Rural Development;

Health and Community Care;

General Questions

3.00 pm Stage 1 Debate on the Tenements (Scotland) Bill

followed by Motion on the Civil Partnership Bill - UK Legislation

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

Wednesday 9 June 2004

2.30 pm Time for Reflection

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Executive Business

followed by Business Motion

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

The motion was agreed to.

4. Approval of SSI: Patricia Ferguson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S2M-1333—That the Parliament agrees that the draft Budget (Scotland) Act 2004 Amendment Order 2004 be approved.

The motion was agreed to (DT).

5. Approval of SSI: Patricia Ferguson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S2M-1334—That the Parliament agrees that the draft Health Professions (Operating Department Practitioners and Miscellaneous Amendments) Order 2004 be approved.

The motion was agreed to (DT).

6. Decision Time: The Parliament took decisions on items 1, 2, 4 and 5 as noted above.

7. Livestock Improvement Scheme: The Parliament debated S2M-877 in the name of Mr Jamie McGrigor—That the Parliament recognises the considerable success over the last few years of the Livestock Improvement Scheme and, in particular, the Bull Hire Scheme in providing quality bulls to crofters at reasonable prices; notes with concern changes to the scheme that will require crofters to pay in advance for bull hire and wintering costs; fears that these changes will deter crofters from obtaining high quality bulls with quality assurance and thus run against the committed aims of both the Scottish Executive Environment and Rural Affairs Department and the Crofters Commission of increasing the quality of the Scottish beef herd, and believes that the Scottish Executive should improve the efficiency of the current scheme rather than introducing upfront payments for bull hire that would put a severe financial strain on scheme members.

8. Motion without Notice: Rob Gibson moved without notice that, under Rule 8.14.3, the debate be extended by 15 minutes.

The motion was agreed to.

The meeting closed at 6.15 pm.

P E Grice

Clerk of the Parliament

19 May 2004

Appendix

(Note: this Appendix does not form part of the Minutes)

Subordinate Legislation

Negative Instruments

The following instrument was laid before the Parliament on 19 May 2004 and is subject to annulment

The General Medical Services and the General Medical Services and Section 17C Agreements (Transitional and Other Ancillary Provisions Orders) (Scotland) Amendment Order 2004 (SSI/2004/223)

laid under section 7(4) of the Primary Medical Services (Scotland) Act 2004

Other Documents

The following document was laid before the Parliament on 19 May 2004 and is not subject to any Parliamentary procedure

Gaelic Broadcasting Committee Annual Report & Accounts 2002-03 (SE/2004/100)

laid under schedule 19(12) of the Broadcasting Act 1990

Note: Framework Guidance on Preparing a National Park Plan (SE/2004/98), laid on 18 May 2004, is subject to annulment and not approval by resolution as previously stated.

Committee Reports

The following Reports were published on 19 May 2004—

Local Government and Transport Committee, 6th Report 2004 (Session 2): Report on Subordinate Legislation (SP Paper 159)

Communities Committee, 7th Report 2004 (Session 2): Report on Subordinate Legislation (SP Paper 160)


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