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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

Meeting of the Parliament

Vol 1, No 66 (Session 2)

Thursday 1st April 2004

 
 

Note: (DT) signifies a decision taken at Decision Time.

The meeting opened at 9.30 am.

1. Ministerial Statement: The Minister for Communities (Ms Margaret Curran) made a statement, and answered questions on modernising and reforming Scotland’s planning system.

2. Business Motion: Patricia Ferguson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S2M-1139—That the Parliament agrees that, during the Stage 3 proceedings of the Education (Additional Support for Learning) (Scotland) Bill, debate on each part of those proceedings shall be brought to a conclusion by the time-limits indicated (each time-limit being calculated from when Stage 3 begins and excluding any periods when other business is under consideration or when the meeting of the Parliament is suspended or otherwise not in progress)

Groups 1 and 2 – no later than 40 minutes

Groups 3 and 4 – no later than 1 hour 10 minutes

Groups 5 to 8 – no later than 2 hours

Groups 9 and 10 – no later than 2 hours and 30 minutes

Groups 11 and 12 – no later than 3 hours and 10 minutes

Groups 13 to 16 – no later than 3 hours and 30 minutes

Motion to pass the Bill – no later than 4 hours

The motion was agreed to.

3. Education (Additional Support for Learning) (Scotland) Bill - Stage 3: The Bill was considered at Stage 3.

The following amendments were agreed to without division: 4, 8, 9, 12, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 23, 24, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 91, 32, 34 and 35.

Amendment 8A was agreed to (by division: For 56, Against 50, Abstentions 1)

The following amendments were disagreed to (by division)—

61 (For 46, Against 61, Abstentions 0)

73 (For 50, Against 61, Abstentions 0)

5 (For 44, Against 61, Abstentions 5)

62 (For 50, Against 61, Abstentions 0)

10 (For 50, Against 60, Abstentions 0)

74 (For 13, Against 82, Abstentions 17)

11 (For 52, Against 61, Abstentions 0)

14 (For 52, Against 58, Abstentions 0)

66 (For 50, Against 59, Abstentions 0)

67 (For 50, Against 59, Abstentions 0)

3 (For 53, Against 60, Abstentions 0)

Other amendments were not moved or were pre-empted.

4. First Minister’s Question Time: Questions were answered by the First Minister (Mr Jack McConnell.

5. Question Time: Questions were answered by the Minister for Enterprise and Lifelong Learning (Mr Jim Wallace) and the Minister for Transport (Nicol Stephen); by the Deputy Minister for Justice (Hugh Henry); and by other Ministers and junior Scottish Ministers.

6. Emergency Question: An emergency question on the European Commission’s announcement on changes to the December 2003 fisheries agreement was answered by the Deputy Minister for Environment and Rural Development (Allan Wilson).

7. Education (Additional Support for Learning) (Scotland) Bill - Stage 3: The Parliament resumed consideration of the Bill at Stage 3.

The following amendments were agreed to without division: 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 43, 45, 46, 93, 51, 53, 54, 55, 57, 58, 59 and 60.

The following amendments were agreed to (by division)—

47 (For 61, Against 54, Abstentions 0)

48 (For 60, Against 56, Abstentions 0)

The following amendments were disagreed to (by division)—

76 (For 50, Against 59, Abstentions 0)

77 (For 49, Against 61, Abstentions 0)

92 (For 51, Against 60, Abstentions 1)

40A (For 53, Against 60, Abstentions 0)

42 (For 51, Against 59, Abstentions 0)

44 (For 51, Against 59, Abstentions 0)

80 (For 54, Against 61, Abstentions 0)

81 (For 55, Against 61, Abstentions 0)

82 (For 54, Against 61, Abstentions 0)

84 (For 54, Against 61, Abstentions 0)

86 (For 54, Against 61, Abstentions 0)

87 (For 43, Against 65, Abstentions 0)

88 (For 42, Against 66, Abstentions 0)

49 (For 51, Against 61, Abstentions 0)

70A (For 52, Against 59, Abstentions 0)

70 (For 51, Against 59, Abstentions 0)

71 (For 51, Against 60, Abstentions 0)

52 (For 53, Against 60, Abstentions 0)

90 (For 53, Against 60, Abstentions 0)

72 (For 51, Against 60, Abstentions 3)

Amendment 68 was moved and, with the agreement of the Parliament, withdrawn.

Other amendments were not moved or were pre-empted.

8. Decision Time: Patricia Ferguson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved without notice, a motion under Rule 11.2.4 of Standing Orders that Decision Time on Thursday 1 April 2004 be taken at 5.33 pm.

The motion was agreed to.

9. Education (Additional Support for Learning) (Scotland) Bill – Stage 3: The Minister for Education and Young People (Peter Peacock) moved S2M-1039—That the Parliament agrees that the Education (Additional Support for Learning) (Scotland) Bill be passed.

Lord James Douglas-Hamilton moved amendment S2M-1039.1 to motion S2M-1039—

Insert at end—

"but, in so doing, expresses concern that the Scottish Executive did not act fully upon the recommendations of the Education Committee’s 2nd Report 2004 (Session 2), Stage 1 Report on Education (Additional Support for Learning) (Scotland) Bill, and is concerned that a significant number of parents who formerly had records of needs for their child will no longer have comparable legal rights to those parents whose children will qualify for a Co-ordinated Support Plan."

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 52, Against 61, Abstentions 0).

The motion was agreed to ((DT) by division: For 91, Against 6, Abstentions 15).

10. Business Motion: Patricia Ferguson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S2M-1125—That the Parliament agrees—

(a) that consideration of the Local Governance (Scotland) Bill at Stage 2 be completed by 4 June 2004;

(b) that the timetable for consideration of the Fire Sprinklers in Residential Premises (Scotland) Bill at Stage 1 be extended to 8 October 2004; and

(c) that the Justice 1 Committee reports to the Justice 2 Committee by 16 April 2004 on the Police Grant (Scotland) Order 2004, (SSI 2004/120); the Police (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2004 (SSI/2004/121); and the Criminal Legal Aid (Fixed Payments) (Scotland) Amendment (No.2) Regulations 2004 (SSI/2004/126).

The motion was agreed to.

11. Membership of Committees: Patricia Ferguson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved—

S2M-1141—That the Parliament agrees that Ms Sandra White be appointed to replace Campbell Martin on the Equal Opportunities Committee.

S2M-1142—That the Parliament agrees that Campbell Martin be appointed to replace Ms Sandra White on the Public Petitions Committee.

S2M-1143—That the Parliament agrees that Ms Sandra White be appointed to replace Campbell Martin on the Communities Committee.

The motions were agreed to (DT).

12. Decision Time: The Parliament took decisions on items 7 and 9 as noted above.

13. Nursery Nurses’ Pay and Conditions: The Parliament debated S2M-977 in the name of Elaine Smith—That the Parliament recognises that the job of nursery nurse represents one of the remaining professions characterised by both an almost exclusively female workforce and an overarching legacy of low pay; notes however, that the increased academic and professional demands upon nursery nurses have been consistently recognised by both the Parliament and wider society in recent months; expresses concern that this consensual public recognition has not been reflected in the form of an adequate and timely settlement for those nursery nurses currently jeopardising their own financial security in an attempt to obtain a remuneration package that fairly represents their job and responsibilities; conveys regret that nursery nurses have now voted overwhelmingly for indefinite strike action to begin on 1 March 2004 that will result in widespread disruption to children’s education and massive inconvenience for parents; acknowledges that this dispute represents a potential watershed not only for the future of the nursery service and early years education but also for the issue of equal pay in Scotland, and suggests that a possible route to a satisfactory settlement would be a national review of the nursery service followed by a Scotland-wide regrading of the role of nursery nurses.

14. Motion without Notice: The Deputy Minister for Education and Young People (Euan Robson) moved without notice that, under Rule 8.14.3, the debate be extended by 15 minutes.

The motion was agreed to.

The meeting closed at 6.40 pm.

P E Grice

Clerk of the Parliament

1 April 2004


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