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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

Meeting of the Parliament

Vol 4 No 59 Session 1

Thursday 13 March 2003

 
 

Note: (DT) signifies a decision taken at Decision Time.

The meeting opened at 9.30 am.

1. The Current International Situation: Mr John Swinney moved S1M-4012—That the Parliament believes that no case for military action against Iraq has been proven; believes that no United Kingdom forces should take part in any military action without a United Nations mandate that specifically authorises such action and is based on clear, compelling and published evidence, and believes that any pre-emptive action by the United States of America and the United Kingdom without such a mandate would be contrary to international law.

Mr Jack McConnell moved amendment S1M-4012.6 to motion S1M-4012

Leave out from the first "no" to end and insert—

"the authority of the United Nations is crucial to resolving conflicts in the Middle East, that Saddam Hussein is a danger to the international community, the region and his own people and that Saddam Hussein should co-operate fully with the implementation of UN resolution 1441 and notes the objective of Her Majesty’s Government to secure a further resolution in the UN Security Council before any military intervention."

David McLetchie moved amendment S1M-4012.6.1 to amendment S1M-4012.6—

Insert at end—

"registers its concern that the report published by the International Development Committee of the House of Commons concludes that insufficient emphasis has been placed on the humanitarian implications of military action in Iraq and urges Her Majesty’s Government, in co-operation with the United Nations, aid agencies and other governments, to address this as a matter of priority."

After debate, amendment S1M-4012.6.1 was agreed to (DT).

John McAllion moved amendment S1M-4012.6.2 to motion S1M-4012.6—

Leave out from "the authority" to end and insert—

"no case for military action against Iraq has been proven."

After debate, amendment S1M-4012.6.2 was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 57, Against 62, Abstentions 3).

Amendment S1M-4012.6 as amended was then agreed to ((DT) by division: For 69, Against 52, Abstentions 4).

Mr Jim Wallace moved amendment S1M-4012.5 to motion S1M-4012—

Leave out from first "believes" to end and insert—

"condemns the failure of the Iraqi regime to respect international law and human rights; supports the United Nations’ (UN) efforts to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction under UN Security Council Resolution 1441; calls for the inspectors to be given sufficient time and resources to continue their work as long as the Security Council assesses that progress can be made; believes that only as a last resort, once all other options have been exhausted, should military action in Iraq be undertaken, and opposes any military action not sanctioned by a further resolution from the Security Council and an affirmative vote on a substantive motion in the House of Commons."

After debate, amendment S1M-4012.5 was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 56, Against 67, Abstentions 2).

The motion as amended was then agreed to ((DT) by division: For 68, Against 53, Abstentions 4).

Accordingly, the Parliament resolved—That the Parliament believes that the authority of the United Nations is crucial to resolving conflicts in the Middle East, that Saddam Hussein is a danger to the international community, the region and his own people and that Saddam Hussein should co-operate fully with the implementation of UN resolution 1441 and notes the objective of Her Majesty’s Government to secure a further resolution in the UN Security Council before any military intervention; registers its concern that the report published by the International Development Committee of the House of Commons concludes that insufficient emphasis has been placed on the humanitarian implications of military action in Iraq and urges Her Majesty’s Government, in co-operation with the United Nations, aid agencies and other governments, to address this as a matter of priority.

2. Business Motion: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-4011— That the Parliament agrees the following programme of business—

Wednesday 19 March 2003

9:30 am Time for Reflection

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Stage 3 of Mental Health (Care and Treatment) (Scotland) Bill

followed by Ministerial Statement

2:30 pm Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Continuation of Stage 3 Mental Health (Care and Treatment) (Scotland) Bill

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5:00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business – debate on the subject of S1M-3961 Jackie Baillie: Reform of Charity Law.

Thursday 20 March 2003

9:30 am Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Continuation of Stage 3 of Mental Health (Care and Treatment) (Scotland) Bill

followed by Business Motion

2:30 pm Question Time

3:10 pm First Minister's Question Time

3:30 pm Continuation of Stage 3 of Mental Health (Care and Treatment) (Scotland) Bill

followed by Motion on Sexual Offences Bill – UK Legislation

Motion on Railways and Transport Safety Bill – UK Legislation

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5:00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business – debate on the subject of S1M-3897 Kenneth Gibson: Suicide Emergency Telephone Hotline

Wednesday 26 March 2003

9:30 am Time for Reflection

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Executive Business

2:30 pm Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Stage 3 of Council of Law Society of Scotland Bill

followed by Stage 3 of Commissioner for Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill

followed by Final Stage of National Galleries of Scotland Bill

followed by Stage 3 of Salmon and Freshwater Fisheries (Consolidation) (Scotland) Bill

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5:00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

Thursday 27 March 2003

9:30 am Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Executive Business

followed by Members’ Business

2:30 pm Question Time

3:10 pm First Minister's Question Time

3:30 pm Executive Business

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

4:00 pm Decision Time

The motion was agreed to.

3. Question Time: Questions were answered by the First Minister and other Ministers and junior Scottish Ministers.

4. Dog Fouling (Scotland) Bill – Business Motion: Patricia Ferguson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau moved S1M-4019—That the Parliament agrees that, during the Stage 3 proceedings on the Dog Fouling (Scotland) Bill, debate on each part of those proceedings shall be brought to a conclusion by the time-limits indicated (each time-limit being calculated from when Stage 3 begins and excluding any periods when the meeting of the Parliament is suspended)—

Amendment 1 – no later than 30 minutes

Motion to pass the Bill - no later than 1 hour

The motion was agreed to.

5. Dog Fouling (Scotland) Bill - Stage 3: The Bill was considered at Stage 3.

Amendment 1 was agreed to without division.

6. Dog Fouling (Scotland) Bill – Stage 3: Mr Keith Harding moved S1M-3866—That the Parliament agrees that the Dog Fouling (Scotland) Bill be passed.

After debate, the motion was agreed to (DT).

7. Approval of SSI: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-4007—That the Parliament agrees that the draft General Commissioners of Income Tax (Expenses) (Scotland) Regulations 2003 be approved.

The motion was agreed to (DT).

8. Approval of SSI: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-4008—That the Parliament agrees that the draft Landfill (Scotland) Regulations 2003 be approved.

The motion was agreed to (DT).

9. Approval of SSI: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-4009—That the Parliament agrees that the draft Road Traffic (Vehicles Emissions) (Fixed Penalty) (Scotland) Regulations 2003 be approved.

The motion was agreed to (DT).

10. Approval of SSI: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-4010—That the Parliament agrees that the draft SFGS Farmland Premium Scheme 2003 be approved.

The motion was agreed to (DT).

11. Decision Time: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved without notice that, under Rule 11.2.4 of Standing Orders, Decision Time on Thursday 13 March 2003 be taken at 4.31 pm.

The motion was agreed to.

12. Decision Time: The Parliament took decisions on items 1, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 as noted above.

13. Post Office Card Accounts: The Parliament debated S1M-3932 in the name of David Mundell—That the Parliament believes that those post office customers in Scotland who wish to continue receiving their benefits, pensions payments and tax credits through the Post Office, following the introduction of automated credit transfer in April 2003, should be allowed to do so through a post office card account opened at the counter of a post office or sub-post office; further believes that customers should be offered a genuine choice between the options available, including a post office card account; supports the National Federation of SubPostmasters’ call that there should be no administrative obstacles to customers opening a post office card account; notes the importance of post office card accounts to the future financial viability of sub-post offices, and considers that Scottish ministers should work with Her Majesty’s Government to ensure that there is a level playing field in the marketing, promotion and advertising of the banking options from all departments of Her Majesty’s Government, including the Department for Work and Pensions, the Inland Revenue and the Veterans Agency, the Scottish Executive and its agencies and local authorities.

The meeting closed at 5.31 pm.

P E Grice

Clerk of the Parliament

13 March 2003

Appendix

(Note: this Appendix does not form part of the Minutes)

Other Documents

The following documents were laid before the Parliament on 13 March 2003 and are not subject to any Parliamentary procedure—

Angus College: Report of the Board of Management and Annual Accounts for the year ended 31 July 2002 (SE/2003/22)—

Cardonald College: Report of the Board of Management and Annual Accounts for the year ended 31 July 2002 (SE/2003/28)—

Central College of Commerce: Report of the Board of Management and Financial Statements for the year ended 31 July 2002 (SE/2003/29)—

Cumbernauld College: Report of the Board of Management and Financial Statements for the year ended 31 July 2002 (SE/2003/33)—

Glasgow College of Building and Printing: Report of the Board of Management and Annual Accounts for the year ended 31 July 2002 (SE/2003/40)—

North Highland College Report of the Board of Management and Financial Statements for the year ended 31 July 2002 (SE/2003/40)—

laid under the Public Finance and Accountability (Scotland) Act 2000


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