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Note: (DT) signifies a decision taken at Decision
Time.
The meeting opened at 9.30 am.
1. Time for Reflection: Reverend Marion
Dodd, Minister of Kelso Old and Sprouston, Jedburgh Presbytery,
led Time for Reflection.
2. Business Motion: Euan Robson, on behalf
of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved That the Parliament
agrees as a revision to the programme of business agreed on
12 February 2003
Wednesday 19 February 2003
after
"2:00 pm Continuation of Stage 3 of Criminal Justice
(Scotland) Bill"
delete all and insert
"followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions
6:30 pm Decision Time".
The motion was agreed to.
3. Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill Business
Motion: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary
Bureau, moved S1M-3924That the Parliament agrees that,
during Stage 3 of the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill, debate
on each part of the Stage 3 proceedings shall be brought to
a conclusion by the time-limits indicated (each time-limit being
calculated from when the Stage begins and excluding any periods
when other business is under consideration or when the meeting
of the Parliament is suspended or otherwise not in progress)
Groups 1 to 4 no later than 1 hour 15 minutes
Groups 5 to 12 no later than 2 hours 35 minutes
Groups 13 to 18 no later than 4 hours 15 minutes
Groups 19 to 21 no later than 5 hours and 25 minutes
Groups 22 and 23 no later than 5 hours and 55 minutes
Groups 24 to 30 no later than 7 hours
Motion to pass the Bill 7 hours 30 minutes
The motion was agreed to.
4. Fisheries: The Minister
for Environment and Rural Development moved S1M-3914That
the Parliament welcomes the Executives commitment
of up to £50 million in aid to assist fishermen, on-shore fisheries
businesses and fishing communities throughout Scotland as a
very substantial response to the outcome of the EU Fisheries
Council in December 2002; welcomes the result of quota negotiations
in the nephrops fishery and the progress made in reforms to
the Common Fisheries Policy at that Council; endorses the need
for sustainable economic development of Scotlands fishing
industry and communities; recognises this can best be achieved
through healthier fish stocks; acknowledges this implies further
restructuring of the white fish sector; welcomes the provision
of up to £40 million for further decommissioning; welcomes the
provision of up to £10 million in transitional support to facilitate
rational economic planning and adjustment by those who wish
to remain in the sector; notes that such transitional support
will be conditional upon, for example, non-diversification into
other valuable fisheries, such as the west coast and North Sea
nephrops fisheries, and supports the Executive in its negotiations
to secure a more economically realistic EU legal framework initially
through amendment to the current interim EU regulation and thereafter
through a successor regime.
After debate, the motion was agreed to ((DT) by division: For
66, Against 49, Abstentions 1).
Richard Lochhead moved amendment S1M-3914.1
to motion S1M-3914
Leave out from first "welcomes" to end and insert
"condemns the deal supported by the Parliamentary
Under-Secretary of State, Department for Environment, Food
and Rural Affairs at Decembers EU Fisheries Council;
agrees with the Minister for Environment and Rural Development
that the deal is "inequitable, unfair and even crude";
rejects the scale of the decommissioning element of the Scottish
Executives subsequent aid package and calls on ministers
to agree with industry representatives a recovery plan that
includes appropriate assistance for the catching, processing
and service sectors and ensures as far as possible that the
industry remains intact; believes that Her Majestys
Government and the European Commission should provide funding
towards such a recovery plan; demands that the Executive and
Her Majestys Government renegotiate immediately the
days at sea and quota cuts with a view to replacing these
measures at the earliest opportunity with a management regime
that promotes sustainability and protects the future of our
fishing communities; urges ministers to ensure that Scotlands
quota allocations only benefit active fishermen in Scotland,
and recognises that the Common Fisheries Policy must be replaced
by a policy that returns genuine control of our fishing grounds
to the Parliament."
After debate, the amendment was disagreed
to ((DT) by division: For 32, Against 80, Abstentions 1).
Mr Jamie McGrigor moved amendment S1M-3914.2 to motion S1M-3914
Leave out from first "welcomes" to end and insert
"recognises that the results of the EU Fisheries
Council in December were disastrous for Scotland; notes the
severity of the crisis now facing the Scottish fishing industry;
believes that the effects of the conservation measures already
taken by Scottish fishermen have not been taken into full
consideration; further notes the Scottish Executives
£50 million aid package but questions the balance of allocation
between decommissioning and transitional funding, and notes
that the Common Fisheries Policy of collective management
has been disastrous for the Scottish fishing industry and
must be replaced and that only a move to national and local
control will bring sustainability to the Scottish fishing
industry in the future."
After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division:
For 17, Against 70,
Abstentions 28).
5. Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill - Stage 3:
The Bill was considered at Stage 3 (Day 1).
The following amendments were agreed to (without division):
11, 12, 13, 14 and 15.
The following amendments were disagreed to (by division)
82 (For 39, Against 62, Abstentions 0)
83 (For 25, Against 76, Abstentions 0)
Another amendment was not moved.
6. Location of a New
Hospital for Forth Valley: The Parliament debated S1M-3864
in the name of Brian MonteithThat the Parliament notes
the announcement by the Forth Valley NHS Board that its favoured
location for a new single-site hospital for Forth Valley is
the Royal Scottish National hospital site at Larbert; further
notes that the board is to undertake further work including
a feasibility study and transport impact assessment before submitting
its outline business case to the Scottish Executive this summer;
recognises that the Scottish Executive and the Minister for
Health and Community Care retain the ultimate say over the location
of the proposed new hospital for the area, and believes that
the Executive should consider any case for a new hospital in
the context of the accessibility of the hospital to the public
and the consequential arrangements for community health care
throughout the Forth Valley NHS Board area.
7. Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill - Stage 3:
The Parliament resumed consideration of the Bill at Stage 3
(Day 1).
The following amendments were agreed to (without division):
18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 88, 89, 44, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 91,
30, 31, 92, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 45, 4, 93, 79, 46,
47, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69 and 70.
Amendment 10 was agreed to by division (For 95, Against 15,
Abstentions 1)
The following amendments were disagreed to (by division)
87 (For 22, Against 42, Abstentions 1)
24 (For 8, Against 82, Abstentions 0)
32 (For 9, Against 83, Abstentions 0)
78 (For 12, Against 88, Abstentions 0)
33 (For 14, Against 90, Abstentions 0)
38 (For 14, Against 91, Abstentions 1)
39 (For 15, Against 92, Abstentions 0)
6 (For 18, Against 96, Abstentions 0)
95 (For 35, Against 74, Abstentions 3)
41 (For 17, Against 92, Abstentions 0)
97 (For 15, Against 87, Abstentions 0)
99 (For 42, Against 65, Abstentions 0)
7 (For 17, Against 95, Abstentions 1)
Amendments 85 and 98 were moved and, with the agreement of
the Parliament, withdrawn.
Other amendments were not moved.
The Parliament ended consideration of the Bill for the day
amendment 1 having been called but not moved.
8. Designation of Lead Committee: Euan
Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-3918That
the Parliament agrees that the Justice 1 Committee be designated
as lead committee in consideration of the draft Rehabilitation
of Offenders Act 1974 (Exclusions and Exceptions) (Scotland)
Order 2003.
The motion was agreed to (DT).
9. Designation of Lead Committee: Euan
Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-3919That
the Parliament agrees that the Justice 2 Committee be designated
as lead committee in consideration of the draft General Commissioners
of Income Tax (Expenses) (Scotland) Regulations 2003.
The motion was agreed to (DT).
10. Decision Time: Euan Robson, on behalf
of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved a motion, without notice,
that the Parliament agrees under rule 11.2.4 of Standing Orders
that Decision Time on Wednesday 19 February 2003 be taken at
6.25 pm.
The motion was agreed to.
11. Decision Time: The Parliament took
decisions on items 4, 8 and 9 as noted above.
The meeting closed at 6.29 pm.
P E Grice
Clerk of the Parliament
Wednesday 19 February
Appendix
(Note: this Appendix does not form part
of the Minutes)
Subordinate Legislation
Affirmative Instruments
The following instrument was laid before the Parliament on
14 February 2003 for approval by resolution
The Fishing Vessels (Decommissioning) (Scotland) Scheme
2003 (SSI 2003/87)
laid under the Fisheries Act 1981
The following instrument was laid before the Parliament on
17 February 2002 for approval by resolution
The Sea Fishing (Transitional Support) (Scotland) Scheme
2003 (SSI 2003/92)
laid under the Fisheries Act 1981
Negative Instruments
The following instruments were laid before the Parliament on
14 February 2003 and are subject to annulment—
The Surface Waters (Fishlife) (Classification) (Scotland)
Amendment Regulations 2003 (SSI 2003/85)
laid under the Control of Pollution Act 1974
The National Assistance (Sums for Personal Requirements)
(Scotland) Regulations 2003 (SSI 2003/86)
laid under the National Assistance Act 1948
The following instruments were laid before the Parliament on
17 February 2002 and are subject to annulment—
The Sea Fishing (Enforcement of Community Quota and Third
Country Fishing Measures) (Scotland) Order 2003 (SSI 2003/88)
laid under the Fisheries Act 1981
The Births, Deaths, Marriages and Divorces (Fees) (Scotland)
Amendment Regulations 2003 (SSI 2003/89)
laid under the Births, Deaths and Marriages (Scotland)
Act 1965
Not Subject to any Parliamentary Procedure
The following instrument was laid before the Parliament on
14 February 2003 and is not subject to any Parliamentary procedure
The Food Protection (Emergency Prohibitions) (Amnesic Shellfish
Poisoning) (West Coast) (No.11) (Scotland) Order 2002 Revocation
Order 2003 (SSI 2003/81)
laid under the Food and Environment Protection Act
1985
The following instrument was laid before the Parliament on
18 February 2003 and is not subject to any Parliamentary procedure
The Food Protection (Emergency Prohibitions) (Amnesic Shellfish
Poisoning) (West Coast) (No. 13) (Scotland) Order 2002 Partial
Revocation (no. 2) Order 2003 (SSI 2003/90)
laid under the Food and Environment Protection Act
1985
Other Documents
The following document was laid before the Parliament on 17
February 2003 and is not subject to any Parliamentary procedure
Community Care and Health (Scotland) Act 2002 (Interest
Rates on Deferred Payments) Directions 2003 (SE/2003/67)
The following document was laid before the Parliament on 19
February 2003 and is not subject to any parliamentary procedure
Report by the Scottish Public Services Ombudsman of an
investigation into a complaint against Borders General Hospital
NHS Trust (SPSO/2003/01)
laid under the Scottish Public Services Ombudsman Act
2002
Committee Reports
The following Reports were published on 17 February 2003—
Education Culture and Sport Committee, 3rd Report 2002:
Report on Subordinate Legislation (SP Paper 773)
Subordinate Legislation Committee, 15th Report 2003: Report
on Subordinate Legislation (SP Paper 774)
Subordinate Legislation Committee, 16th Report 2003: Delegated
Powers Scrutiny: Title Conditions (Scotland) Bill as amended
at Stage 2 (SP Paper 775)
Subordinate Legislation Committee, 17th Report 2003: Delegated
Powers Scrutiny: Dog Fouling (Scotland) Bill as amended
at Stage 2 (SP Paper 776)
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