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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

Meeting of the Parliament

Vol 4, No 15 Session 1

Thursday 12 September 2002

 
 

Note: (DT) signifies a decision taken at Decision Time.

The meeting opened at 9.30 am.

1. Performance of the Scottish Economy: Andrew Wilson moved S1M-3376—That the Parliamentnotes with great concern the latest government figures on economic growth showing Scotland has entered official recession for the first time in twenty years; recognises that this recession is the latest symptom of economic under-performance in Scotland over a protracted period and that Scotland has the potential to perform much better than it has; resolves that the performance of the Scottish economy should be of prime importance to the agenda of the Executive, the Parliament and all concerned with the well-being of the people of Scotland and the sustainable financing of public service investments, and therefore calls upon the Scottish Executive to set an ambitious target for improving Scotland’s trend rate of growth and contribute to a mature, serious and open-minded debate about the best policy measures to achieve that target, keeping an open mind about both the limits of existing powers and the potential competitive benefits of properly focussed policies with the full powers of independence.

The Minister for Enterprise, Transport and Lifelong Learning moved amendment S1M-3376.2 to motion S1M-3376—

Leave out from "notes" to end and insert—

"endorses the Scottish Executive’s aim to increase the sustainable growth of the Scottish economy over the long term, using the powers available to the Parliament, thus providing resources for first-class public services and a more socially just and sustainable Scotland; supports the work undertaken to improve the long-term performance of the Scottish economy as set out in the Framework for Economic Development and Smart, Successful Scotland, and notes the progress in implementing measures to help businesses grow, build Scotland’s global connections and improve Scotland’s skills base."

Miss Annabel Goldie moved amendment S1M-3376.1 to motion S1M-3376—

Leave out from "this recession" to end and insert—

"economic growth is the key to raising personal living standards, providing opportunity and security for all and the means by which we improve our public services and quality of life; further recognises that this prosperity can only be created on a sound entrepreneurial base, and therefore calls on the Scottish Executive to increase investment in our transport infrastructure and to return Scotland to a uniform business rate poundage throughout the United Kingdom, these being two essential factors in providing the right framework for the creation of wealth and jobs."

After debate, amendment S1M-3376.2 was agreed to ((DT) by division: For 67, Against 32, Abstentions 18). As a result amendment S1M-3376.1 was pre-empted.

The motion, as amended, was then agreed to ((DT) by division: For 67, Against 33, Abstentions 18).

Accordingly, the Parliament resolved—That the Parliament endorses the Scottish Executive’s aim to increase the sustainable growth of the Scottish economy over the long term, using the powers available to the Parliament, thus providing resources for first-class public services and a more socially just and sustainable Scotland; supports the work undertaken to improve the long-term performance of the Scottish economy as set out in the Framework for Economic Development and Smart, Successful Scotland, and notes the progress in implementing measures to help businesses grow, build Scotland’s global connections and improve Scotland’s skills base.

2. Acute Services Review: Nicola Sturgeon moved S1M-3375—That the Parliament welcomes the proposed £700 million investment in the modernisation of Glasgow’s hospitals; considers, however, that the plan by Greater Glasgow NHS Board for the re-structuring of acute services in Glasgow is unacceptable in its current form; is particularly concerned about the proposed number and location of in-patient hospitals and the reduction of accident and emergency departments from five to two, and calls upon the Minister for Health and Community Care to suspend his approval of the board’s plan and to establish an independent expert group to conduct, within six months, an impartial review of the plan, with a view to identifying proposals which command greater public acceptance and which can be implemented within a rapid timeframe.

The Minister for Health and Community Care moved amendment S1M-3375.1 to motion S1M-3375—

Leave out from "considers" to end and insert—

"accepts that the status quo is not an option and that improvements and modernisation must be progressed as soon as possible in order to enhance the quality of care; recognises that this is a long-term plan which must be flexible enough to take account of changing service demands and developing medical practice; supports an on-going monitoring and review process that includes external independent audit by Audit Scotland on an annual basis; endorses a commitment to keep named services at Stobhill and Victoria over the next five years and to have this locally monitored; gives high priority to the acceleration of ambulatory care and diagnostics developments in consultation with local communities; recognises the particular concern over the number of accident and emergency departments and supports a review of this in two years time that involves staff, patient and community groups, Glasgow Health Council and the Scottish Royal Colleges, and welcomes current developments in the Scottish Ambulance Service which will include the near doubling of paramedics in Glasgow by 2005 and one paramedic in the crew of each front-line ambulance."

After debate, the amendment was agreed to ((DT) by division: For 62, Against 52, Abstentions 5).

The motion, as amended, was then agreed to ((DT) by division: For 65, Against 52, Abstentions 2).

Accordingly, the Parliament resolved—That the Parliament welcomes the proposed £700 million investment in the modernisation of Glasgow’s hospitals; accepts that the status quo is not an option and that improvements and modernisation must be progressed as soon as possible in order to enhance the quality of care; recognises that this is a long-term plan which must be flexible enough to take account of changing service demands and developing medical practice; supports an on-going monitoring and review process that includes external independent audit by Audit Scotland on an annual basis; endorses a commitment to keep named services at Stobhill and Victoria over the next five years and to have this locally monitored; gives high priority to the acceleration of ambulatory care and diagnostics developments in consultation with local communities; recognises the particular concern over the number of accident and emergency departments and supports a review of this in two years time that involves staff, patient and community groups, Glasgow Health Council and the Scottish Royal Colleges, and welcomes current developments in the Scottish Ambulance Service which will include the near doubling of paramedics in Glasgow by 2005 and one paramedic in the crew of each front-line ambulance.

3. Business Motion: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau moved S1M-3381—That the Parliament agrees—

  1. the following programme of business—

Wednesday 18 September 2002

2.00 pm Time for Reflection

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Stage 1 Debate on Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill

followed by Financial Resolution in respect of the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

Thursday 19 September 2002

9.30 am Stage 1 Debate on Debt Arrangement and Attachment (Scotland) Bill

followed by Financial Resolution in respect of the Debt Arrangement and Attachment (Scotland) Bill

followed by Business Motion

2.30 pm Question Time

3.10 pm First Minister's Question Time

3.30 pm Executive Debate on the Role of Culture in the Educational Development of Young People

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

Wednesday 25 September 2002

2.30 pm Time for Reflection

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Education, Culture and Sport Committee Debate on the Committee’s Report on proposed Commissioner for Children and Young People Bill

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

Thursday 26 September 2002

9.30 am Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party Business

followed by Business Motion

2.30 pm Question Time

3.10 pm First Minister's Question Time

3.30 pm Executive Business

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

and (b) that the Justice 1 Committee reports to the Justice 2 Committee by 20 September 2002 on the Registration of Births, Deaths and Marriages (Fees) (Scotland) Order 2002 (SSI 2002/389) and the Births, Deaths, Marriages and Divorces (Fees) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2002 (SSI 2002/390).

The motion was agreed to.

4. Ministerial Statement: The Minister for Finance and Public Services made a statement on the Spending Review 2002.

5. Question Time: Questions were answered by the First Minister and other Ministers and junior Scottish Ministers.

6. Spending Review 2002: The Minister for Environment and Rural Development moved S1M-3382—That the Parliament commends the Executive’s spending plans for 2003-04 to 2005-06.

Bruce Crawford moved amendment S1M-3382.1 to motion S1M-3382—

Leave out "commends" and insert—

"notes"

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 35, Against 82,

Abstentions 0).

David McLetchie moved amendment S1M-3382.2 to motion S1M-3382—

Leave out from "commends" to end and insert—

"notes the Scottish Executive’s spending plans for 2003-04 to 2005-06, which are funded as a result of the swingeing increases in taxation which were a feature of the 2002 UK Budget; expresses concern about the sustainability of such levels of expenditure; believes that without major reform of public services the proposed spending increases will not produce the value for money improvements expected by the Scottish people, and calls on the Scottish Executive to provide a boost to the economy by reducing the burden of business rates."

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 17, Against 69, Abstentions 31).

The motion was then agreed to ((DT) by division: For 67, Against 50, Abstentions 1).

7. Designation of Lead Committee: Euan Robson on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau moved S1M-3379—That the Parliament agrees that the Justice 1 Committee be designated as lead committee in consideration of the Council of the Law Society of Scotland Bill and that the Justice 2 Committee be a secondary committee.

The motion was agreed to ((DT) by division: For 108, Against 3, Abstentions 7).

8. Designation of Lead Committee: Euan Robson on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau moved S1M-3380—That the Parliament agrees that the Education, Culture and Sport Committee be designated as lead committee in consideration of the Protection of Children (Scotland) Bill and that the Justice 1 and 2 Committees be secondary committees.

The motion was agreed to (DT).

9. Decision Time: The Parliament took decisions on items 1, 2, 6, 7 and 8 as noted above.

10. Causing Death by Dangerous Driving: The Parliament debated S1M-3210 in the name of Cathie Craigie—That the Parliament notes the publication of the report by the Transport Research Laboratory, Road Safety Research Report No.26, Dangerous Driving and the Law, which examines the use and application of the law on careless and dangerous driving throughout the UK; supports the report where it states that in Scotland a "clearer message regarding the seriousness of these offences would be sent to both defendant and society if all causing death by dangerous driving cases were tried in the High Court" rather than sheriff courts, and considers that the Scottish Executive should (a) commission specific Scottish research in this area to take on board the report’s conclusions and recommendations and (b) take the necessary steps to ensure that dangerous driving offences are heard in the appropriate court and not downgraded.

11. Motion without Notice: Mr Michael Matheson moved without notice, that under Rule 8.14.3, the debate be extended until 6.15 pm.

The motion was agreed to.

The meeting closed at 6.16 pm.

P E Grice

Clerk of the Parliament

12 September 2002

Appendix

(Note: this Appendix does not form part of the Minutes)

Other Documents

The following documents were laid before the Parliament on 12 September 2002 and are not subject to any Parliamentary procedure—

The Queen’s Printer for Scotland Report covering the period 1 July 1999 to 31 March 2002 (SE/2002/222)

Report by the Auditor General for Scotland on the 2001-02 Audit of Lanarkshire Primary Care NHS Trust (SE/2002/255)

Report by the Auditor General for Scotland on the 2001-02 Audit of Lomond and Argyll Primary Care NHS Trust (SE/2002/256)

Report by the Auditor General for Scotland on the 2001-02 Audit of Lothian Primary Care NHS Trust (SE/2002/257)

Report by the Auditor General for Scotland on the 2001-02 Audit of Renfrewshire and Inverclyde Primary Care NHS Trust (SE/2002/258)

Report by the Auditor General for Scotland on the 2001-02 Audit of West Lothian Healthcare NHS Trust (SE/2002/259)

Committee Reports

The following Report was published on 12 September 2002

Health and Community Care Committee, 12th Report 2002: Report on Subordinate Legislation (SP Paper 646)


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