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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

Meeting of the Parliament

Vol 4, No 10 Session 1

Wednesday 26 June 2002

 
 

Note: (DT) signifies a decision taken at Decision Time.

The meeting opened at 2.30 pm.

1. Time for Reflection: The Reverend Dr J. Philip Newell, Church of Scotland, led Time for Reflection.

2. University of St. Andrews (Postgraduate Medical Degrees) Bill – Business Motion: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-3259—That the Parliament agrees that time for consideration of Stages 2 and 3 of the University of St Andrews (Postgraduate Medical Degrees) Bill be allocated as follows, so that debate on proceedings at each Stage, if not previously brought to a conclusion, shall be brought to a conclusion at the time specified—

Stage 2 – no later than 3.20 pm

Stage 3 – no later than 3.30 pm

The motion was agreed to.

3. Business Motion: Patricia Ferguson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-3252—That the Parliament agrees—

as a revision to the Business Programme agreed on Thursday 20 June 2002:

Wednesday 26 June 2002

after first Parliamentary Bureau Motions, delete all and insert—

"followed by Ministerial Statement on Budget Revision

followed by, no

later than 3.05 pm Committee of the Whole Parliament: Stage 2 of the University of St. Andrews (Postgraduate Medical Degrees) Bill

followed by Stage 3 Debate on University of St. Andrews (Postgraduate Medical Degrees) Bill

followed by Executive Debate on Action on Waiting and Delayed Discharge

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business - debate on the subject of S1M-3173 Trish Godman: Loan Sharks"

Thursday 27 June 2002

after "Stage 3 Debate on Scottish Parliamentary Standards Commissioner Bill", delete all and insert—

"followed by Finance Committee Debate on its Report on Stage 1 of the 2003/04 Budget Process

followed by Motion on Police Reform Bill - UK Legislation

followed by, no

later than 1.00 pm Motions on appointment of Scottish Public Services Ombudsman and Deputy Ombudsmen

2.30 pm Question Time

3.10 pm First Minister's Question Time

3.30 pm Executive Debate on Better Communities in Scotland: Closing the Gap

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business - debate on the subject of S1M-3207 Christine Grahame: Peebles Sheriff Court"

the following programme of business—

Wednesday 4 September 2002

2.30 pm Time for Reflection

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Executive Business

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

Thursday 5 September 2002

9.30 am Executive Business

followed by Business Motion

2.30 pm Question Time

3.10 pm First Minister's Question Time

3.30 pm Executive Business

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

and (c) that Stage 1 of the Dog Fouling (Scotland) Bill be completed by 10 January 2003 and that Stage 2 of the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill be completed by 31 October 2002.

The motion was agreed to.

4. Ministerial Statement: The Minister for Finance and Public Services made a statement on Budget Revision.

The meeting closed at 3.08 pm.

A second meeting opened at 3.18 pm.

5. University of St Andrews (Postgraduate Medical Degrees) Bill – Stage 3: Iain Smith moved S1M-3209—That the Parliament agrees that the University of St Andrews (Postgraduate Medical Degrees) Bill be passed.

After debate, the motion was agreed to (DT).

6. Action on Waiting and Delayed Discharge: The Minister for Health and Community Care moved S1M-3248—That the Parliament applauds the outstanding commitment and work of NHS staff in delivering reductions in waiting lists and the longest waiting times; recognises that more needs to be done, particularly for those patients experiencing the longest waits; welcomes the work of the National Waiting Times Unit and the proposed use of HCI as a national waiting times centre; notes the outcome of the Audit Scotland report on the management of waiting lists and that the Health Department will be working with others to implement its recommendations, and supports vigorous action on a range of fronts to reduce waiting times and the delays experienced by patients awaiting discharge from hospital.

Nicola Sturgeon moved amendment S1M-3248.1 to motion S1M-3248

Leave out from "delivering" to end and insert—

"the face of increasing in-patient and out-patient waiting times; is extremely concerned at the disturbing findings of the recent Audit Scotland report, Review of the management of waiting lists in Scotland; calls for deferred waiting lists to be abolished and for all patients to be given a maximum waiting time guarantee; supports the work of the National Waiting Times Unit but calls on the Scottish Executive to give a commitment that HCI will be used exclusively for NHS patients in Scotland, and supports more vigorous action on a range of fronts to reduce waiting times and the delays experienced by patients awaiting discharge from hospital."

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 27, Against 80, Abstentions 0).

Mary Scanlon moved amendment S1M-3248.2 to motion S1M-3248—

Leave out from "in delivering" to end and insert—

"; regrets the fact that waiting times are longer than they were when the Scottish Executive took office; notes with concern a simultaneous drop in NHS activity; particularly regrets the political interference within the NHS which has led to the inconsistent and unclear record keeping within the NHS discovered by Audit Scotland; and further notes that while the Executive continues to exert political control over our health service waiting times and delayed discharges will only get worse and that the best way to deliver improvements is to put patients first by giving them real choices and devolving power to local hospitals and GPs so that decisions are taken on the basis of clinical priorities."

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 16, Against 66, Abstentions 25).

The motion was then agreed to ((DT) by division: For 65, Against 18, Abstentions 24).

7. Decision Time: The Parliament took decisions on items 5 and 6 as noted above.

8 Loan Sharks: The Parliament debated S1M-3173 in the name of Trish Godman—That the Parliament commends the excellent initiative of the Daily Record to name and shame the "loan sharks" who prey on vulnerable people living in poverty throughout Scotland; agrees with the newspaper that Scotland must not be a country where it is a crime to be poor and where loan sharks obtain huge profits out of other people's precarious financial circumstances, and is of the firm view that the Parliament, in close partnership with the UK Parliament, the police and other appropriate public agencies, must take decisive action to drive these predators out of their sordid "business" in the interests of their victims and victims’ families.

The meeting closed at 5.54 pm.

P E Grice

Clerk of the Parliament

26 June 2002


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