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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

Meeting of the Parliament

Vol 4 No 2 Session 1

Thursday 16 May 2002

 
 

Note: (DT) signifies a decision taken at Decision Time.

The meeting opened at 9.30 am.

1. Investment and Reform in Health and Community Care: The Minister for Health and Community Care moved S1M-3106—That the Parliament welcomes the Scottish Executive’s commitment to sustained investment in health; agrees that investment must be accompanied by reform that is focused on the needs and expectations of patients and service users; acknowledges the progress that has already been made by the National Waiting Times Unit and looks forward to further improvements; supports a collaborative approach to reform which involves patients, staff and the wider public; welcomes the priority attached to dealing with delayed discharge and hospital-acquired infection, and believes that improving health and tackling health inequalities in both urban and rural Scotland should be central features of the reform agenda.

Nicola Sturgeon moved amendment S1M-3106.1 to motion S1M-3106—

Leave out from first "welcomes" to end and insert—

"regrets that the sustainability of investment in health is dependent solely on decisions taken by Her Majesty’s Government rather than determined by the Scottish Parliament; agrees that reform in the delivery of health care is essential if we are to create a modern NHS which improves health and tackles health inequalities throughout Scotland, is transparent in its operation and publicly accountable, and prioritises the needs and expectations of patients and service users; is concerned that the Scottish Executive’s use of the Private Finance Initiative and private healthcare capacity to redress decades of under-funding by the Tories damages the NHS and undermines the principle of a universal service that is free at the point of need; is further concerned that waiting lists and times are manipulated to the point of being meaningless, and believes that continuing reduction in the NHS acute sector capacity and staff shortages across the range of healthcare professions must be reversed if the NHS is to tackle effectively the crucial issues of bed blocking, waiting lists and times and hospital-acquired infection which remain fundamental obstructions to improving the health of the people of Scotland."

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 28, Against 76,

Abstentions 0).

Mary Scanlon moved amendment S1M-3106.3 to motion S1M-3106—

Leave out from first "welcomes" to end and insert—

"agrees that investment in health must be accompanied by reform that is focused on the needs and expectations of patients and service users; supports a collaborative approach to reform which involves patients, staff and the wider public; believes that improving health and tackling health inequalities in both urban and rural Scotland should be central features of the reform agenda; regrets the failure of the Scottish Executive to deal with delayed discharge and hospital-acquired infection; notes that medical activity has decreased, and further notes that the Scottish Executive’s National Waiting Times Unit has only achieved success after utilising the independent sector."

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 15, Against 90,

Abstentions 0).

The motion was then agreed to ((DT) by division: For 61, Against 43, Abstentions 0).

2. Business Motion: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-3110—That the Parliament agrees—

(a) the following programme of business—

Tuesday 28 May 2002

9.30 am Time for Reflection

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Executive Debate on The Modernising Government Fund

11.30 am HM the Queen's Address

2.30 pm Executive Debate on Alternatives to Custody

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

Wednesday 29 May 2002

9.30 am Executive Debate on Potential Benefits to the Scottish Economy of the Planned Energy Research Institute and of the Diversification of the Offshore Oil and Gas Industry

followed by Executive Motion on Nominations to the EU Economic and Social Committee

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

2.30 pm Scottish National Party Debate on Scotland's Air Links

followed by Scottish National Party Debate on GM Crops

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

Thursday 30 May 2002

9.30 am Ministerial Statement and Debate on the Executive Programme

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Business Motion

2.00 pm Question Time

3.00 pm First Minister's Question Time

3.30 pm Executive Debate on Implementing the Cancer Strategy

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

Wednesday 12 June 2002

2.30 pm Time for Reflection

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Stage 1 Debate on the University of St. Andrews (Postgraduate Medical Degrees) Bill

followed by, no

later than 3.35 pm Executive Business

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

Thursday 13 June 2002

9.30 am Scottish National Party Business

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Business Motion

2.30 pm Question Time

3.10 pm First Minister's Question Time

3.30 pm Executive Business

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

and (b) that the Justice 1 Committee and the Enterprise and Lifelong Learning Committee report to the Justice 2 Committee by 21 May 2002 on the Regulation of Investigatory Powers (Source Records) (Scotland) Regulations 2002 (SSI 2002/205), the Regulation of Investigatory Powers (Juveniles) (Scotland) Order 2002 (SSI 2002/206) and the Regulation of Investigatory Powers (Cancellation of Authorisations) (Scotland) Regulations 2002 (SSI 2002/207).

The motion was agreed to.

3. Question Time: Questions were answered by the First Minister and other Ministers and junior Scottish Ministers.

4. Golden Jubilee: The First Minister moved S1M-3103—That the Parliament congratulates Her Majesty the Queen on the occasion of Her Golden Jubilee; expresses its gratitude for Her Majesty’s outstanding public service and steadfast dedication to duty over half a century of immense change; affirms the respect that is held for Her Majesty the Queen in Scotland, and looks forward with anticipation to the continuation of that long and close association on the occasion of Her Majesty’s Golden Jubilee tour of Scotland later this month and Her visit to the Parliament in Aberdeen on 28 May.

Tommy Sheridan moved amendment S1M-3103.1 to motion S1M-3103—

Leave out from "congratulates" to end and insert—

"believes that the position of Her Majesty the Queen and the monarchy represent the worst excesses of the extreme inequality of wealth and power which undermine society as a whole; calls on Her Majesty the Queen to pay full inheritance tax on the estate left to Her by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, and believes that Scotland’s future is as an independent republic where the people are sovereign and are recognised as citizens, not subjects as is the case currently under our archaic and outdated monarchy arrangement."

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 2, Against 101, Abstentions 1).

The motion was then agreed to ((DT) by division: For 101, Against 2, Abstentions 2).

5. National Waste Strategy: The Minister for Environment and Rural Development moved S1M-3105—That the Parliament supports the Scottish Executive’s commitment to sustainable waste management; commends the progress being made towards the establishment of a National Waste Plan by partnership working between the Executive, local government, the Scottish Environment Protection Agency and other stakeholders; welcomes the preparation of draft area waste plans to establish the best practicable environmental options for municipal waste management, and notes that all have a part to play in the reduction and better management of Scotland’s waste.

Bruce Crawford moved amendment S1M-3105.1 to motion S1M-3105—

Leave out from "supports" to end and insert—

"notes that in February 2000 the European Commission applied for a declaration that the UK had failed to fulfil its obligations in particular under Council Directive 75/442/EEC of 15 July 1975 on waste, and that the UK accepted this failure and the European Court of Justice found the UK (including Scotland) in breach of a number of waste related Directives; further notes that the National Waste Strategy was published in 1999 together with a commitment to the production of Area Waste Plans by the end of 2000 and that this target date was subsequently extended to a final deadline of March 2002; is concerned with the slow progress being made towards the better management of waste in Scotland, and believes that in order to speed up progress the Executive must firstly introduce mandatory targets, on an all Scotland basis, of 30% to 35% for recycling and composting of household waste by 2010."

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 28, Against 77,

Abstentions 0).

John Scott moved amendment S1M-3105.3 to motion S1M-3105—

Leave out from "commends" to end and insert—

"welcomes the preparation of draft area waste plans; regrets the slow progress being made towards ambitious recycling targets being set in the National Waste Plan; notes the need to build on work done already by local authorities, and recognises the need for community involvement and ownership of the problems of waste disposal at all levels to make a National Waste Strategy effective throughout Scotland."

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 17, Against 88, Abstentions 0).

The motion was then agreed to ((DT) by division: For 63, Against 42, Abstentions 0).

6. Suspension of Standing Orders: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-3108—That the Parliament agrees that Rule 13.6.2 and Rule 13.6.3 of the Standing Orders be suspended for the meeting of the Parliament on Thursday 30 May 2002.

The motion was agreed to (DT).

7. Approval of SSI: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-3111—That the Parliament agrees that the draft Air Quality (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2002 be approved.

The motion was agreed to (DT).

8. Substitution on Committees: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-3117—That the Parliament agrees the following nominated committee substitutes for the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party as permitted under Rule 6.3A—

Miss Annabel Goldie Audit Committee

Murdo Fraser Education, Culture and Sport Committee

Mr David Davidson Enterprise and Lifelong Learning Committee

Mr Jamie McGrigor Equal Opportunities Committee

David Mundell European Committee

Mr Keith Harding Finance Committee

Ben Wallace Health and Community Care Committee

Bill Aitken Justice 1 Committee

Lord James Douglas-Hamilton Justice 2 Committee

John Young Local Government Committee

Phil Gallie Procedures Committee

Mrs Lyndsay McIntosh Public Petitions Committee

John Scott Rural Development Committee

Keith Harding Social Justice Committee

Alex Johnstone Standards Committee

Brian Monteith Subordinate Legislation Committee

David Mundell Transport and the Environment Committee

The motion was agreed to (DT).

9. Substitution on Committees: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-3118—That the Parliament agrees the following nominated committee substitutes for the Scottish National Party as permitted under Rule 6.3A—

Duncan Hamilton Audit Committee

Fiona McLeod Education, Culture and Sport Committee

Fergus Ewing Enterprise and Lifelong Learning Committee

Michael Matheson Equal Opportunities Committee

Winnie Ewing European Committee

Andrew Wilson Finance Committee

Brian Adam Health and Community Care Committee

Kay Ullrich Justice 1 Committee

Roseanna Cunningham Justice 2 Committee

Tricia Marwick Local Government Committee

Richard Lochhead Procedures Committee

Irene McGugan Public Petitions Committee

Alasdair Morgan Rural Development Committee

Sandra White Social Justice Committee

Mike Russell Standards Committee

Kenny MacAskill Subordinate Legislation Committee

Bruce Crawford Transport and the Environment Committee

The motion was agreed to (DT).

10. Substitution on Committees: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-3120—That the Parliament agrees the following nominated committee substitutes for the Liberal Democrat Party as permitted under Rule 6.3A—

Jamie Stone Audit Committee

Robert Brown Education, Culture and Sport Committee

John Farquhar Munro Enterprise and Lifelong Learning Committee

Nora Radcliffe Equal Opportunities Committee

Tavish Scott European Committee

Keith Raffan Finance Committee

Ian Jenkins Health Committee

Margaret Smith Justice 1 Committee

Donald Gorrie Justice 2 Committee

Robert Brown Local Government Committee

Iain Smith Procedures Committee

Mike Rumbles Public Petitions Committee

George Lyon Rural Development Committee

Keith Raffan Social Justice Committee

Ian Jenkins Standards Committee

Mike Rumbles Subordinate Legislation Committee

Iain Smith Transport and the Environment Committee

The motion was agreed to (DT).

11. Membership of Committee: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-3119—That the Parliament agrees that Elaine Thomson be appointed to the Finance Committee.

The motion was agreed to (DT).

12. Decision Time: The Parliament took decisions on items 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11 as noted above.

13. Cross-Party Support for a Review of the Construction Industry in Scotland: The Parliament debated motion S1M-2622 in the name of Marilyn Livingstone—That the Parliament recognises the importance of the construction industry to the Scottish economy and the contribution it makes to supporting employment and vocational education and training; notes that nine out of every 10 construction firms employ less than eight people; acknowledges that the reputation of the whole industry is damaged by the actions of rogue traders, particularly within the residential sector, and that small businesses contend that their profitability and competitiveness is adversely affected by the system of cash retentions, and believes that the Scottish Executive should initiate a strategic review of construction in Scotland in order to (a) identify how best to combat the "cowboy" element, (b) support the education and training infrastructure so that it is able to meet the skill requirements of the industry, (c) examine the possibility of developing an inspection and assessment regime to evaluate the competence of construction companies, (d) address the system of cash retentions and (e) ensure that the provisions within the existing construction contracts legislation deliver a process that is fair, effective and easy to understand.

The meeting closed at 6.04 pm.

P E Grice

Clerk of the Parliament

16 May 2002

Appendix

(Note: this Appendix does not form part of the Minutes)

Subordinate Legislation

Negative Instruments

The following instruments were laid before the Parliament on 16 May 2002 and are subject to annulment—

The Community Care and Health (Scotland) Act 2002 (Consequential Amendment) Order 2002 (SSI 2002/233)

laid under the Community Care and Health Act 2002

The Meat (Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Point) (Scotland) Regulations 2002 (SSI 2002/234)

laid under the Food Safety Act 1990

Committee Reports

The following Report was published on 16 May 2002

Health and Community Care Committee, 6th Report 2002: Report on Subordinate Legislation (SP Paper 586)


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