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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

Meeting of the Parliament

Vol 3, No 66 Session 1

Thursday 18 April 2002

 
 

Note: (DT) signifies a decision taken at Decision Time.

The meeting opened at 9.30 am.

1. Prison Estates Review: The Deputy First Minister and Minister for Justice moved S1M-2993—That the Parliament welcomes the publication of the consultation paper Proposals for the Future of the Scottish Prison Service Estate; believes that to help achieve a safer Scotland the prison estate should facilitate the secure holding of prisoners and the delivery of effective rehabilitation programmes, and that prisons should provide a reasonable standard of accommodation; recognises that these objectives can only be achieved by substantial modernisation of the present prison estate, and encourages all interested individuals and organisations to contribute to the current consultation.

Roseanna Cunningham moved amendment S1M-2993.2 to motion S1M-2993—

Leave out from "welcomes" to end and insert—

"notes the publication of the consultation paper Proposals for the Future of the Scottish Prison Service Estate; believes that to help achieve a safer Scotland the prison estate should facilitate the secure holding of prisoners and the delivery of effective rehabilitation programmes, and that prisons should provide a reasonable standard of accommodation; recognises that these objectives can only be achieved by substantial modernisation of the present prison estate; further notes that private prisons have serious deficiencies in their management of both inmates and staff, and asserts that, in the interest of public safety, such a key component of the criminal justice system should remain in the public sector."

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 28, Against 76, Abstentions 0).

Lord James Douglas-Hamilton moved amendment S1M-2993.1 to motion
S1M-2993—

Insert at end—

", however, calls on the Scottish Executive to instigate further investigation into the costings for a new prison at Peterhead, specifically for accommodation for 500 to 700 prisoners, in order to ensure that the best possible outcome is achieved to maintain the excellence that has been delivered to date by HM Prison Peterhead."

 

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 39, Against 65, Abstentions 3).

The motion was then agreed to ((DT) by division: For 78, Against 3, Abstentions 26).

2. Business Motion: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-2990—That the Parliament agrees—

  1. the following programme of business—

Wednesday 24 April 2002

2.30 pm Time for Reflection

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Stage 3 Debate on the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Bill

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

Thursday 25 April 2002

9.30 am Executive Debate on Modernising Primary Care in NHS Scotland to Improve Health

followed by Business Motion

2.30 pm Question Time

3.10 pm First Minister's Question Time

3.30 pm Executive Debate on Scotland’s Freshwater Fish and Fisheries: Securing their Future

followed by Financial Resolution in respect of the Scottish Parliamentary Standards Commissioner Bill

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business – debate on the subject of S1M-2615 Cathy Peattie: International Workers’ Memorial Day

Wednesday 1 May 2002

2.30 pm Time for Reflection

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Executive Business

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

Thursday 2 May 2002

9.30 am Scottish National Party Business

followed by Business Motion

2.30 pm Question Time

3.10 pm First Minister's Question Time

3.30 pm Stage 3 Debate on the Scottish Qualifications Authority Bill

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

(b) that the Justice 2 Committee reports to the Justice 1 Committee by 26 April 2002 on the Combined Police Area Amalgamation Schemes 1995 (Amendment) (Scotland) Order 2002 (SSI 2002/140) and the Combined Fire Services Area Administration Schemes (Variation) (Scotland) Order 2002 (SSI 2002/141) and that the Justice 1 Committee reports to the Justice 2 Committee by 26 April 2002 on the Police Act 1997 (Criminal Records) (Scotland) Regulations 2002 (SSI 2002/143)

and (c) that Stage 1 of the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill be completed by 13 September 2002.

The motion was agreed to.

3. Ministerial Statement: The First Minister made a statement on the 2002 UK Budget.

4. Question Time: Questions were answered by the First Minister and other Ministers and junior Scottish Ministers.

After debate, the motion was disagreed to (by division: For 47, Against 57, Abstentions 0).

5. Motion without notice: Mike Russell moved without notice that, under Rule 8.15.1, the debate on motion S1M-2994 be adjourned.

 

6. Social Care Workforce Development: The Minister for Education and Young People moved S1M-2994—That the Parliament commends the work of the social services workforce in local authorities, in voluntary organisations and in the private sector in providing vital services for older people, for children and their families and for people with disabilities and others, and in contributing to better community safety through work with offenders and in youth justice; notes the work already undertaken by the Executive to support the development of this workforce, and endorses the Executive’s strategy and commitment to further work to secure a well trained workforce.

Irene McGugan moved amendment S1M-2994.1 to motion S1M-2994—

Leave out from second "the work" to end and insert—

"the steady decline over the last five years in applications to study social work; further notes that Edinburgh University is poised to scrap its social work degree; further notes that difficulties in recruiting social workers are expressed as a serious concern by the majority of local authorities in Scotland; regrets the absence of a recruitment campaign such as has been launched in other parts of the UK and deplores the lack of strategy which will address the poor public image of the profession, review the pay and conditions of social workers, increase flexibility in job opportunities to aid retention, develop positive initiatives to support front line staff or encourage secondment, and concludes that the Executive is merely posturing on this issue and neither acknowledging the crisis nor addressing the critical issues with real commitment."

 

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 44, Against 63, Abstentions 0).

Ben Wallace moved amendment S1M-2994.2 to motion S1M-2994—

Leave out from second "the work" to end and insert—

"with concern the workforce’s increasing difficulty in carrying out these tasks owing to poor levels of staffing, increased bureaucracy and additional demands on what was already an over-stretched workforce, and therefore calls upon the Scottish Executive to redouble its efforts to secure an appropriately staffed and trained social care workforce which is capable of carrying out its necessary functions."

 

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 42, Against 66, Abstentions 0).

The motion was then agreed to ((DT) by division: For 64, Against 1, Abstentions 43).

7. Approval of SSIs: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-2991—That the Parliament agrees that the following instruments be approved—

the Loch Lomond and the Trossachs National Park Elections (Scotland) Order 2002;

the Loch Lomond and the Trossachs National Park Designation, Transitional and Consequential Provisions (Scotland) Order 2002; and

the Bus User Complaints Tribunal Regulations 2002.

The motion was agreed to (DT).

8. Decision Time: The Parliament took decisions on items 1, 6 and 7 as noted above.

9. Environmentally Designated Areas: The Parliament debated S1M-2790 in the name of Jamie McGrigor—That the Parliament notes with alarm concerns expressed by local communities highlighted by recent petitions to the Public Petitions Committee (PE462 to 464) about procedures and scientific data used by Scottish Natural Heritage (SNH) for environmentally designated areas, such as Special Protection Areas, Special Areas of Conservation and Sites of Special Scientific Interest and believes that a programme of comprehensive consultation will result in more effective participation and co-operation between SNH and local people within the proposed areas of designation, which will result in better relations between SNH and local communities.

10. Motion without Notice: Sarah Boyack moved without notice that, under Rule 8.14.3, the debate be extended until 6.05 pm.

The meeting closed at 6.03 pm.

P E Grice

Clerk of the Parliament

18 April 2002

Appendix

(Note: this Appendix does not form part of the Minutes)

 

 

Subordinate Legislation

Negative Instruments

The following instrument was laid before the Parliament on 18 April 2002 and is subject to annulment

The National Health Service (General Dental Services) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2002 (SSI 2002/192)

laid under the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1978

 

 


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