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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

Meeting of the Parliament

Vol 3, No 21 Session 1

Thursday 27 September 2001

 
 

The meeting opened at 9.30 am.

1. Implications of the Care Development Group Report: Nicola Sturgeon moved S1M-2248—That the Parliament notes the publication of the report of the Care Development Group and welcomes the opportunity for a full parliamentary debate on the detail of the recommendations contained in the report; further welcomes the Scottish Executive’s pledge to make personal care free for all elderly people from April 2002 whilst noting that aspects of the detail of this commitment require further clarification; notes in particular that the £125 million set aside by the Scottish Executive will not be sufficient to fund the recommendations of the Care Development Group unless Her Majesty's Government agrees to allow those currently eligible for Attendance Allowance to retain this benefit, notwithstanding their entitlement to free personal care; believes that, as a matter of principle, any such shortfall should not be met from within existing Scottish Executive resources, and calls on Her Majesty's Government to make the necessary amendments to the social security regulations or, alternatively, to transfer the resources that will be saved as a result of the withdrawal of Attendance Allowance to the Scottish Executive.

The Deputy Minister for Health and Community Care moved amendment S1M-2248.1 to motion S1M-2248—

Leave out from first "notes" to end and insert—

"welcomes the report of the Care Development Group and the Scottish Executive’s commitment to implement its recommendations and further welcomes the statement made by the Minister for Health and Community Care on 26 September 2001."

Ben Wallace moved amendment S1M-2248.1.1 to amendment S1M-2248.1—

Insert at end—

"but urges the Scottish Executive to implement the recommendation of the Royal Commission chaired by Sir Stewart Sutherland for the "pooling" of budgets and put in place systems to ensure that funds allocated for community care are actually spent on such services."

After debate, amendment S1M-2248.1.1 was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 16, Against 64, Abstentions 30).

After debate, amendment S1M-2248.1 was agreed to ((DT) by division: For 79, Against 28, Abstentions 3).

The motion as amended was then agreed to ((DT) by division: For 79, Against 1, Abstentions 31).

Accordingly, the Parliament resolved—That the Parliament welcomes the report of the Care Development Group and the Scottish Executive’s commitment to implement its recommendations and further welcomes the statement made by the Minister for Health and Community Care on 26 September 2001.

2. Government Stewardship of the Public’s Resources: Alasdair Morgan moved S1M-2249—That the Parliament notes the Scottish Executive’s news release of 19 September 2001 on end-year flexibility.

After debate, the motion was agreed to (DT).

3. Business Motion: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-2256—That the Parliament agrees—

(a) the following programme of business—

Wednesday 3 October 2001

2.30 pm Time for Reflection

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Executive Debate on a Forward Strategy for Agriculture

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business - debate on the subject of S1M-2118 Mrs Mary Mulligan: Oxfam

Thursday 4 October 2001

9.30 am Stage 3 Debate on the Protection from Abuse (Scotland) Bill

followed by Business Motion

2.30 pm Question Time

3.10 pm First Minister's Question Time

3.30 pm Executive Debate on Sports Promotion in Scotland’s Schools

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business - debate on the subject of S1M-2098 Christine Grahame: Borders Children with Special Education Needs

(b) that the Justice 2 Committee reports to the Local Government Committee by 7 October 2001 on the Firemen’s Pension Scheme (Pension Sharing on Divorce) (Scotland) Order 2001 (SSI 2001/310), and to the Justice 1 Committee by 22 October 2001 on the Parole Board (Scotland) Rules 2001 (SSI 2001/315), the Criminal Legal Aid (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2001 (SSI 2001/306) and the Criminal Legal Aid (Fixed Payments) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2001 (SSI 2001/307); and

(c) that Stage 1 of the Public Appointments (Parliamentary Approval) (Scotland) Bill be completed by 8 February 2002.

The motion was agreed to.

4. Question Time: Questions were answered by the First Minister and other Ministers and junior Scottish Ministers.

5. Emergency Question: An emergency question on the Common Fisheries Policy was answered by the Deputy Minister for Rural Development.

6. Police and Fire Services (Finance) (Scotland) Bill - Stage 1: The Deputy Minister for Justice moved S1M-1992—That the Parliament agrees to the general principles of the Police and Fire Services (Finance) (Scotland) Bill.

After debate, the motion was agreed to (DT).

7. Designation of Lead Committees: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-2252—That the Parliament agrees that the Health and Community Care Committee is designated as Lead Committee in consideration of the Community Care and Health (Scotland) Bill and that the Bill should also be considered by the Local Government Committee.

The motion was agreed to (DT).

8. Membership of Committees: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-2253—That the Parliament agrees that Murdo Fraser be appointed to replace David Mundell on the Subordinate Legislation Committee.

The motion was agreed to (DT).

9. Approval of SSIs: Euan Robson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S1M-2254—That the Parliament agrees that the following instruments be approved—

the Food Protection (Emergency Prohibitions) (Amnesic Shellfish Poisoning) (West Coast) (No.5) (Scotland) Order 2001 (SSI 2001/295); and

the Fishing Vessels (Decommissioning) (Scotland) Scheme 2001.

The motion was agreed to (DT).

The meeting was suspended from 4.56 pm until 5.00 pm.

10. Decision Time: The Parliament took decisions on items 1, 2, 6, 7, 8 and 9 as noted above.

11. RCN Scotland's "Value Nurses" Campaign: The Parliament debated S1M-2054 in the name of Mrs Margaret Smith—That the Parliament supports the Royal College of Nursing Scotland’s "Value Nurses" campaign, which highlights the crucial role that nurses play in delivering high quality patient care; welcomes the nursing summit announced by the Minister for Health and Community Care, and believes that the Executive should take action to recruit and retain more nurses and to reward them in a way which demonstrates the value the Parliament attaches to their work.

12. Motion without notice: Mrs Margaret Ewing moved without notice under Rule 8.14.3 that the debate be extended until 6.00 pm.

The motion was agreed to.

The meeting closed at 5.55 pm.

P E Grice

Clerk of the Parliament

27 September 2001

Appendix

(Note: this Appendix does not form part of the Minutes)

New Bills introduced or reprinted on 24 September 2001

Community Care and Health (Scotland) Bill—A Bill for an Act of the Scottish Parliament to make further provision as respects social care; to make provision in relation to arrangements and payments between National Health Service bodies and local authorities as respects certain of their functions; to amend the law relating to the National Health Service; and for connected purposes. (SP Bill 34) (Executive Bill)

Introduced by: Susan Deacon

Supported by: Henry McLeish, Jackie Baillie, Mr Jim Wallace, Malcolm Chisholm

Explanatory Notes (and other accompanying documents) (SP Bill 34-EN) and a Policy Memorandum (SP Bill 34-PM) were printed to accompany the Bill.

New Bills introduced or reprinted on 26 September 2001

Water Industry (Scotland) Bill—A Bill for an Act of the Scottish Parliament to make further provision in relation to the Water Industry Commissioner for Scotland and to provide for the establishment of Water Customer Consultation Panels; to make further provision in relation to the regulation of the quality of drinking water; to make provision for the establishment of Scottish Water, the transfer to Scottish Water of the functions of the water and sewerage authorities established by section 62(1) of the Local Government etc. (Scotland) Act 1994 and the dissolution of those authorities and in relation to the functions of Scottish Water; to make further amendments of the law relating to water and sewerage; and for connected purposes. (SP Bill 35) (Executive Bill)

Introduced by: Ross Finnie

Supported by: Rhona Brankin

Explanatory Notes (and other accompanying documents) (SP Bill 35-EN) and a Policy Memorandum (SP Bill 35-PM) were printed to accompany the Bill.

Subordinate Legislation

Negative Instruments

The following instrument was laid before the Parliament on 27 September 2001 and is subject to annulment

The Housing (Scotland) Act 2001 (Registered Social Landlords) Order 2001 (SSI 2001/326)

laid under the Housing (Scotland) Act 2001

SPCB Papers

The following document was laid before the Parliament on 27 September 2001 and is not subject to any Parliamentary procedure

Scottish Parliamentary Ombudsman and the Health Service Ombudsman for Scotland Annual Report 2000-01 (SP Paper 382)

laid under the Scotland Act 1998 (Transitory and Transitional Provisions) (Complaints of Maladministration) Order and the Health Service Commissioners Act 1993 as amended by the Health Service Commissioners Act 1996 and the Scotland Act 1998

Other Documents

The following document was laid before the Parliament on 27 September 2001 and is not subject to any Parliamentary procedure

The Public Defence Solicitors’ Office in Edinburgh: An Independent Evaluation (SE/2001/254)

laid under the Legal Aid (Scotland) Act 1986

Committee Reports

The following Reports were published on 27 September 2001—

Education, Culture and Sport Committee, 8th Report 2001: Report on Subordinate Legislation (SP Paper 394)

Subordinate Legislation Committee 33rd Report 2001: Report on Subordinate Legislation (SP Paper 395)


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